The Beginning of TCOPE-- 6 JANUARY 2009

Ladies & Gentlemen.............
Quitters and Cavers.............
I am quit. For 100 days today.

I got here one day at a time. I got here with a hell of a lot of pain and anguish. I got here for me. But most importantly I got here with the help of an interesting group of characters from an internet site called Kill The Can.

There are literally hundreds of posts on KTC talking about the effectiveness of the site and how to use the site. I, for one, didn't think it would work. I'm a pretty keep to myself guy but you know what?? As strange as it sounds, I kept a fucking promise that I couldn't keep to my family or myself. I kept a promise to a bunch of lunatics that I don't even know. And it saved my life.........

The blog you are reading now is, I guess, my HOF speech.

If you were in the FOQers of April 09, you'll probably see yourself somewhere included in my posts. My HOF speech/blog is divided up by week and meant to emphasize some of the things that I feel are important in getting past 100 days.

Many of you in the April group were essential to my quit although I'm sure you didn't know it at the time.
Neither did I until I began to look back over the posts and my diary for the 100 days.

Maybe it was a preposterous rant that one of you made that made me even angrier than I already was in fighting off the nic bitch.

Perhaps it was one of your humorous jabs at someone that made me smirk.

This blog is filled with my WEEKLY RULES FOR QUITTING TOBACCO AND GETTING TO THE HOF.
But more importantly this blog is filled with your funny posts, your serious posts, your ludicrous posts, your ranting posts and more.

Basically, you guys are my HOF speech.

I've approached it like this for a couple of reasons.
1. I want some concise place to go back to IF I EVER EVEN CONTEMPLATE CAVING. Yes, I will continue to use the KTC site but I want to also have a back up. Believe me, reading what you wrote 100 days ago is reassuring!! This is an even deeper commitment from me to you.

2. I wanted to document some bit of history for the guys and gals of this group. There are probably over a million posts (exageration) for our group. This pulls some of the good ones. Hopefully you'll enjoy reading as well. This was YOUR quit as well as MINE. Together it was OURS.

So from a HOF speech it's pretty lame. However, YOU GUYS ARE my Hall of Fame. Listening to your words is the only way that I got here. They helped me to formulate the RULES OF THE WEEK and I am sharing them with you today.

Take a glance at each of my posts/weeks. They lead you through our 100 days and each post is divided up into what I formulated as my guiding principals for my quit and followed by your words and wisdom in the form of posts.

For those of you that want the CLIFF NOTES VERSION:
14 WEEKS OF RULES INCLUDE:
WEEK 1: COMMITTMENT
WEEK 2: CONFUSION
WEEK 3: COMMUNITY
WEEK 4: ACCOUNTABILITY
WEEK 5: FIRST TIMES
WEEK 6: LOVE
WEEK 7: ATTITUDE
WEEK 8: PLAN
WEEK 9: FREEDOM
WEEK 10: ENJOY BUT BEWARE
WEEK 11: COUNT YOUR MONEY
WEEK 12: HELP A BUDDY
WEEK 13: WRITE AND REFLECT
WEEK 14 (HOF): DREAM

Enjoy them all and a nostalgic look back at the first 100 days of the April FOQers.

TCOPE (Todd Copley)

Week One - 6-12 January 2009--- COMMITTMENT

Getting to Know the Nic Bitch
My 1st Post on 6 January 2009 -
TCOPE - Day 1 ----Signing in today for the first time. Time to quit. Have not had a dip all day today. How do you do this roll call thing? TCOPE

With those feeble words I began my journey to quit. What got me to this point was a 30+ year love affair with Copenhagen tobacco. My latest trip to the dentist yesterday was not pleasant with teeth all screwed up and gums in bad shape. I threw out my cans on the way home. My inlaws had been visiting and were leaving on this day. God, I needed a dip.
My son also celebrated his 4th birthday this week on 3 January. I should have quit on that day but needed one more can to get me through. How pathetic.

My 1st week was filled with anger, stress, triggers, and depression. Every thing I did, I did for the first time without nicotine/tobacco. It was a revelation.

That week I also did a 800 mile road trip as well all alone!!! My god, if I didn't cave during that then I thought maybe I can do this!

Week One for me is about COMMITTMENT. If you can't commit to yourself and the people here then come back at another time. It's going to hurt but this committment will save your life. Oh yeah, one other thing. Start keeping some notes or a diary about your quit. It helps and when it comes time to write your HOF guess what? You'll be ready!

RULE FOR WEEK #1: You better be prepared to COMMIT more deeply than you have ever done in your life. If you're not ready then go die.
POST ONE DAY AND ONLY ONE DAY AT A TIME. FOREVER WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF _______________________________________________________________
Highlights/Posts and thoughts for the week to include your posts:
TCOPE - Day 2 Going to bed. Day 2 worse than day 1 for sure. Lots of triggers (needed to go outside and do some work in the yard). Still I held out. Tobacco free for two days. Good night.
8 Jan
TCOPE - Day 3 - Another quit day for me too. I've got a long drive today which will be a huge trigger but I'll get through.

My Intro that I posted
I'm not so internet savvy and am just learning the workings of this site. Found this intro site and although I quit 10 days ago I never posted anything. Thought I'd rectify that. Here's the details:- 46 years old and been dipping since I was 14- Had about 3 decent quits in my life but none of them lasted:
1. Ranger School 1988 - Forbidden and I went 58 days without. Got back on immediately after
2. Graduate school in London, England - You can't buy Cope in EuropeUsed to go to the U.s. Embassy store and buy it there
3. July 2006 - First self imposed quit. Lasted 20 days or so.This time I will quit. My dentist said I'm all fucked up. I have periodontal disease and will now be treated for that. So far no cancer but it's not confirmed.Dip was with me all my life. Single, married, with children. It is probably the oldest "friend" I have. But no longer.....I'm done and that's the story in a very short version that all you guys can and have repeated around the globe.I'm quit

And much more importantly are those posts that helped me that week:

7 Jan from Loot
One day you’ll get it. It took most of us a long time…many years in fact, before we had our “moment of clarity”. For most of us, it was finding a stupid website of all things. Realizing we were not alone. Accepting the fact that we were addicts and that we needed help because we were not strong enough to do it alone.It astonishes LOOT every single time someone here caves after having been exposed to this site for extended periods of time. You didn’t use the site. You may have understood… but ya just couldn’t fucking buy in to the whole accountability thing huh? People, total fucking strangers, bend over backwards to keep you clean. They offer phone numbers, e-mail addys, etc. and ya still don’t fucking get it.

LOOT is 1300+ days clean. LOOT has been through hell over this shit too. LOOT has been in a position to want to throw it all away when the price seemed to high…many times. The only thing that has pulled LOOT’s ass from certain death is the fact that he’s made a select few people a promise. A promise LOOT could never keep to his wife, his sons, and worse…LOOT’s own self. And LOOT expects the same in return from them…and they goddamned know it too. That’s the whole premise of roll call. 100 days seems like an eternity sitting at 7. But…in reality, 100 days ain’t shit. This is a life sentence we all handed ourselves. Try and blame others if you want to…perpetrate that fraud…but it’s bullshit. LOOT doesn’t know what else to say except some quality time in the Welcome Center is warranted for you newbs. Make sure you understand the level of commitment people are putting into your sorry ass every time they sign roll with you.

It’s time consuming and fucking draining…mentally and emotionally draining to know you’ve wasted your fucking time.LOOT’s about certain most of you fucks have quit reading by now…for those that haven’t…read it a fucking gain until you have your moment of clarity. It’s really pretty fucking simple. We can’t do it for you, but we can help you do it…only if you let us though.*LOOT hangs his fuckin head, shaking that big sumbitch side to side*You fuckin had it too man…you fuckin had it. Right in front of you.


7 Jan
Sweenz - 258 - "Ultimately, we are all dead men. Sadly, we can't chose how but we can chose how we meet that end." My end will come without my face rotting off. How about you?

Posted: Jan 7, 2009, 8:58 am
If I may suggest something to occupy the time and unbridaled rage you may experience today. Have a co-worker or close family member kick you in the balls at 15 minute intervals. That should be just about enough time between blows for you to catch your breath and realize you never want to experience that again. Kind of like quitting. The first 3 or 4 days suck. Then you get to un-fuck what dip has done to your mind and never have to experience day 1 thru 4 again. You have made a fantastic decision and your lives will get better soon. If you need any help, send me a PM and my number is yours. Congrats! This post has been edited by ksweeney3 on Jan 7, 2009, 8:59 am

I truly had never seen a girl that dipped snuff and I come from backwoods WV. Christ, she wasn't bad looking either!! Melanie where did you go????

Loot best sums it up below:
Loot digs chicks with handcuffs
guns are cool too
badges ROCK!
look for a PM



Posted: Jan 9, 2009, 9:29 am
I JUST READ THE FOLLOWING IN SWEENZ' HOF SPEECH. IT WAS SO DAMN GOOD, I JUST HAD TO PASTE IT ELSEWHERE. IT'S ALMOST CHURCHILLIAN. AT LUNCH I'M GONNA GO BUY A CASE OF SPRAYPAINT AND FIND ME SOME HIGHWAY OVERPASSES. PURE GENIUS:

"We have the right to watch our children grow and have earned the right to participate in their lives. We will not be denied. Success can be our only option now. We can never tire, give up, fail, or falter. We are worth more than this addiction and will stop at nothing to beat it."
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

QUOTE (ksweeney3 @ Jan 9, 2009, 9:29 am)
QUOTE (TCOPE @ Jan 9, 2009, 11:19 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 9, 2009, 9:13 am)
QUOTE (TCOPE @ Jan 9, 2009, 7:32 am)
Man, I was feeling pretty cocky about 4 days without dip when I read that this misery is still there at 89 days and causes a cave. Christ - I can't believe how strong this shit is. Mike, hang in there.
I was right there as well TCOPE - then came days 12-14 and a funk I can't possibly describe. Get a plan ready because it almost cost me my quit since I had no plan - that issue has been fixed thanks to the awesome support of this board.
Hmmm..... What type of plan did you put together? Right now I've been stocked up on the fake shit but ultimately need to back away from that too.

TCOPE
A plan for when the going gets tough can be something similar to:Crave comes: Insert seeds/gum/candy etc into your grill and tell crave to fuck offCrave persists: come to KTC and read, and look at cancer pics and tell crave to fuck off (If you posted roll already, you can't go back on your word)Crave persists: go into chat and/or call quit brothers and ask for permission to cave (Likely your plan will stop here) Also tell crave to fuck offCrave persists: print out the contract to cave and sign it while telling crave to fuck off.Crave persists: stare down your family and friends and let them know you are a useless piece of shit that is going to make them suffer while telling crave to fuck off. Crave persists still: Slam your nuts in a drawer while telling crave to fuck off.You don't have to do it exactly this way but having multiple steps and layers of defense can help insure you stay quit in a bad situation.

Wildcat 99

Trying to post this from my blackberry... We'll see if it works. I'm showing day 7 that I'm in control of this muther trucker!!! Just got to the airport and have a bit of a wait. The dude I am sitting next to us balls deep in a fat ass chew. I'm balls deep in some Hubba bubba!! Quien es su papa nic bitch???


Tfurrh
Posted: Jan 8, 2009, 9:03 am
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 8, 2009, 8:00 am)
QUOTE (edromero @ Jan 8, 2009, 7:56 am)
is your screen name short for "ricki martin man"?
I do love those boy bands. You caught me.
make you take your clothes off and go dancing in the rain........livin' la vida loca

QUOTE (jpine @ Jan 8, 2009, 7:55 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 8, 2009, 8:54 am)
rkymtnman - 15 - the FUNK SUCKS
if you do this right you only have to do it once. 15 days is awesome. great job


Rooster
Posted: Jan 9, 2009, 5:16 pm
QUOTE
Yeah................................I know I won't dip. It doesn't take away from me wanting it thoughI just wish there was something just as easy to take its place. but there's nothing
My dad once told me if you put wishes in one hand and shit in the other - which will you have more of? Wishes get you no where and shit stinks so a person has to make a real choice as to what you want and what are you actually going to do to attain that goal? Walk the walk. We ALL CRAVE it, but none of us on this board "want it" or else we wouldn't be here -- the tough part is being man (or woman) enough to crave and want freedom from the nic bitch more. Your right - there ain't nothing "out there" to take its place -- the easy part was getting hooked on the shit. I am 34 years of battling these craves - all of my adult life and then some. Together we can kick it. Stay with the the thought - your freedom is worth more than this trial! Rooster



kd4jet
Posted: Jan 10, 2009, 12:55 pm
QUOTE (bhfive @ Jan 10, 2009, 10:42 am)
About how many days until I stop reaching in my pocket for a can that is not there?

I think but i'm not sure it's the day after they kick dirt in your face !
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I am the sum and total of all my life experiences and it's lessons !Quit Date 07/25/2008HOF Date 11/01/2008




Posted: Jan 12, 2009, 11:13 am
QUOTE (ksweeney3 @ Jan 12, 2009, 6:57 am)
QUOTE (NKT @ Jan 12, 2009, 5:06 am)
NKT - Day 1 - no nicotine for me today
Today is the first day of the rest of your life. It will require hard work, determination, focus, blood, sweat, and tears. But when you think about it what good things in life don't?

Sex.

Week Two - 13 - 19 January 2009---CONFUSION

Week of Confusion
If Week One is about Committment then Week 2 is definitely about Confusion:

Do I REALLY WANT to do this??
Who am I kidding?

No way I can go longer than a week without dip.

Maybe I can??....

I'm confused and in a fog.

As the nicotine began to lift from my body I was dazed and confused.
I saw it in the posts I saw as well from my fellow quitters.

The challenge is to break through the CONFUSION.

This is NOTHING to be confused about and revert back to your new found committment that you had in Week 1 when you decided to quit this nasty habit.

Your CONFUSION will disappear and the light will shine..........

RULE FOR WEEK #2: Battle through the CONFUSION. Your commitment is still valid and strong. Move to Week 3 and prepare for Community

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for this week

I took a look at my car to prepare for a road trip this week. My car is a wreck. Still spit cans hid under the seats. If I could vacuum up all the snuff on the floor mats or seats I would have a roll of Copenhagen. It's sick. Can you believe I did this shit. I would take my wife out on a date in this car. How in the hell could she stand it. I know she hated it.

During this week I returned back from my road trip to West Virginia.

My father had been hospitalized and we thought it was the end. He had been delirious and his large intestine was poisoning him. He began to improve during my visit but there was a lot of stress.

I was using the fake stuff pretty heavily. It helped.

When I returned to CT I had continual visits to the Dentist for work. Also I was focused on looking for a new job since I had been laid off at the end of the year. Try sitting behind a desk all friggin day looking at a computer screen without a dip!!

Basically this is where I was ready to quit quitting. If it weren't for posting roll every day then I'd have been gone. I also started keeping statistics on the members of the April HOF. I had to frigging do something or I'd lose my mind. It kept me glued to the site all day and updating my stupid spreadsheet. Ultimately, I thought it was good and I had positive comments from other members. Those that were'nt posting hated me though. Fuck them. Most of them Caved anyway.

WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE SITE THAT WEEK

Do you guys remember during this week there was A LOT OF funny discussion on what we were going to name the group?? Funny shit.

I've included some of those posts here

This was also the week that I was exposed to JPINE!

Here's some of my favorite posts that week

imaquitter
This one was great from imaquitter. Great realization.

Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 5:23 am
today is gonna be a good day. why? you ask, because today is another day that i will not falter in my goal of not using tobacco. it is a day of joy. last nite i was in chat. this guy came in and was thinkin about quittin. i know i havent been here long, but man, i went off on the dude. not cussin him or anything, but tellin him theres a whole different world out there, one without dip. anyway, i went on for about 5 minutes with this guy, it felt great. hopefully he'll be back. to this wonderful world of quit. anyhoo, just wanted to share that, thanksimaquitter
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Chinese proverb: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single stepQuit date 1-1-09
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Jpine

This one made me fucking howl!!
Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 10:22 am
QUOTE (Daniel_J @ Jan 13, 2009, 9:14 am)
but now i know where am at and where i wanna be and ya'll will be there with me until then...

Jpine: you are on your knees in front of me, and you will be there until then
Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 11:50 am
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Redtrain
Sound philosophy from Redtrain

Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 12:07 pm
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Jan 13, 2009, 10:51 am)
QUOTE (BigDBingo @ Jan 13, 2009, 9:50 am)
Ok guys, I'm in. Today is my quit. Killed a can of pouches yesterday, bummed a dip off my brother last night, and woke up this morning determined to kill this habit. I was able to avoid my usual shower dip this morning, and so far havent had a work dip yet today. i have three pieces of super strong gum packed in where the dip would be, feeling the minty burn. I think this quit will be my final quit.BigD

this will be your final quit. welcome to April.

Redtrain: Don't think, thinking gets you in trouble, just quit.
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Bengalgirl

Here's where we contemplated the name Ass Bandits!! I think Rooster almost fucking quit over that one!!!Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 3:25 pm
QUOTE (Remshot @ Jan 13, 2009, 1:19 pm)
QUOTE (mule21 @ Jan 13, 2009, 1:18 pm)
QUOTE (WhoDey @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:13 pm)
QUOTE (Big Brother Jack @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:09 pm)
QUOTE (edromero @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:07 pm)
QUOTE (jpine @ Jan 13, 2009, 1:04 pm)
QUOTE (Armypatt @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:00 pm)
So I had an idea and wanted to see what all of you think.A lot of boards or groups have nick names. Like March, the group before us is playing off the Irish theme.So I thought since we're April and in life there are 2 certainties, death and taxes.And April 15 is Tax day (Which just happens to be my HOF day!!!!!)We could play off that theme.Just a thought.

are you asking for suggestions? i would be more than happy to help

i gotta hear this...let it rock, jp

* BBJ pulls up a chair and is ready for the show .....

ASS BANDITS!!!!

RICK ROLL'S RAIDERShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
April's Ass Bandits does have a nice ring to it.

this will be twice i have been deemed an ass bandit.. last time for a brief period.
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Jpine

Again Jpine nails it!!!

Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 4:24 pm
QUOTE (imaquitter @ Jan 13, 2009, 3:22 pm)
not everyone is an ass clown, and i dont want to be one

you a butt pirate quitter?

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Rooster

Sorry but I removed my name from the roll call of April butt pirates...thats not who I signed up with. It will remain off any and all roll calls until this shit stops. I can take a joke and name calling in a joking way as well as anybody, and if you knew me, probably better than most of you, but ass bandits, assclowns and butt pirates are too degrading for me. I know this statement is like "taking my ball and going home" but sorry I don't have to be treated like shit by the ones who went before us -- especially when I am working on something positive. If I was a caver I would expect the childish name calling. I thought a lot of positive about this organization in the short time I have ben a member but it seems to be going down a path I do not want to travel. And trust me when I say I am not overly sensitive cuz I sure as hell ain't. ndrooster

Week Three - 20-26 January 2009--- COMMUNITY - I'm a FOQer

Okay, explain that to my wife. I'm a FOQer.

In Week 3 you will begin to get to know your fellow quitters. You'll get a feel for their personalities and what motivates (or demotivates) them. It's interesting.

Here again we've been thrown into a group of men (and women) from around the country that we don't know.

We don't know their background.

We don't know what they do

We don't even know their names!!

But somehow we begin to bond and form a community. It is sustaining and refreshing.

These are the guys that during this week you need to get their emails and phone numbers.

Expand the internet based community and TALK TO FUCKING SOMEONE!!!!!!

In 100 days these guys will be your friends.

RULE FOR WEEK #3: Become a part of and support your local COMMUNITY.

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts from this week

This week I was back in CT and of course praying for a dip. But everytime I thought about it I went back to the site.

I have to stay busy. I have to be distracted. In order to do that I devised ways to calculate the percentages of the FOQers roll posting habits. I separated our group into different categories based on how frequently they posted. I sent notes out every night on this shit.

If I didn't do this then I'd cave. That's what I told myself.

This was the week that BLF got relegated to May for the cigarette he smoked and the legendary "mushroom stamp" comment was formulated!!!

Here's some posts I enjoyed that week:

blfoster

The mushroom stamp is born!
Posted: Jan 21, 2009, 10:01 pm
minxGroup: MembersPosts: 152Member No.: 5,470Joined: 30-October 08

----- CAN"T BE PART OF THE GROUP ------To : The April Group, The 7 or 8 who sent me personal E-mails last evening & to those assholes who think their prick is bigger than mine :I would like to apologize for failing the group. I really, really feel bad about letting you down. For those of you unaware; I had a cigarette on Saturday night and thought I was safe since I did not dip; ( I apparently did not read all the rules ), however, it seems this counts as a “cave”. So …. I had a really, really shit day Monday & even a worse one Tuesday - ( work & family related ) – I came here last night and asked the question "Am I still good to go since I only smoked a cigarette and did not dip!” ( I guess I thought deep down that perhaps this was not an exception to the rule ) And to my surprise … or to what I thought, this did not make everything peachy kin with my quite. So ….. having 2 REALLY SHITY days back to back and then to find out that my 20 days of No Dip was null and void by having 1 smoke …. Well it really pissed me off and then a couple of assholes in here proceeded to chastise me like a 3 year old and that pushed me over the edge …. I left here with every intention of buying a can and finishing it last evening. Well … I didn’t b/c I still have been off dip for 21 days … I did buy a pack of smokes and had 2 last night and a couple today … So … I lost / failed …. I hate smoking and am actually allergic to it. But it pissed me off that I did not read all the rules and my quite was voided by 1 mistake - - - my fault - - - I should have read all the rules - - - I thought I was getting around the rules & still keeping my promise. I wish all in April 09 luck & I still have not had a dip - - - but - - - have broken the rules and need to get through some shit before I can l get geared back up and kick all nic and hopefully be back hear to post next monthTo those who e-mailed - - - Sincere heart felt thank you & I am so sorry I did not live up to your expectationsTo those assholes who I am pretty sure are gay; that thought it was funny to chastise me last evening ----- if I ever find you alone in ally …. I will rip open your skull & shit down your throat & just before you die … I say hey, yeah, you beat the nic & I didn’t … but … MY DICK IS STILL BIGGER - - - then I will take it out and mushroom stamp your fucking faggot forehead !!!
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This was from Animal/Dean and it showed his struggle. I loved this:

Tobacco: A good habit to break
We took the picture, though we admit it isn’t pretty.Thursday’s Goshen News included a special section titled “Healthy Living.” The cover photo was of someone — in this case “hand model” Michael Wanbaugh, The News’ managing editor — pinching a generous portion of chewing tobacco. However unsightly, the photo highlighted an article we were happy to publish.The article was about Wakarusa resident Dean Weldy, who’s working to break his smokeless tobacco habit. Weldy has gone 180 days or so tobacco-free. The News wishes him continued success.The “Healthy Living” piece also pointed out that help is available for those serious about going tobacco-free. And that help can be found online.Weldy has benefited from the Internet site killthecan.org. Members join a “quit group,” communicate through a bulletin board, and are able to telephone or e-mail each other. Support is important, and that support being available via the Internet makes sense in 2009.What makes more sense, in our view, is never using tobacco products in the first place.Much has been written about the ills of cigarettes, chewing tobacco, etc. Summing it up is easy: This stuff can kill you. Still, young people mindful of medical evidence continue to take up the habit. That’s perplexing and sad.The News applauds the Dean Weldys of the world who’ve decided to make a change. They’ve made the right choice. We also think the right choice can be made a bit earlier.
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chanilla

Something led me to believe there were homosexual tendencies in our group ha ha ha!!
Posted: Jan 26, 2009, 2:16 am
A fucking clit!

Group: MembersPosts: 229Member No.: 4,157Joined: 2-July 08
QUOTE (montywa @ Jan 26, 2009, 12:10 am)
QUOTE (Lance from SD @ Jan 25, 2009, 9:59 pm)
chanilla - day 10 - had a succesful night out with the guys and gals and no tobacco
I seriously doubt the "gals" portion of your roll call chanilla, but im glad you and your buddies on the diving team had fun last night.

oh yeah? Well you can suck my --- wait....
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tfurrh

This showed us still fucking with the April name. Tfurrh came up with this.

Posted: Jan 27, 2009, 2:59 pm
I may look like a King, but I'm really the Duke.Group: MembersPosts: 1,768Member No.: 5,716Joined: 25-November 08
QUOTE (imaquitter @ Jan 27, 2009, 12:56 pm)
HOW ABOUTTHE NIC KILLIN, ROLL BUMPIN, APRIL QUITTERS!!!feel free to adlib this, or add some "fuckin" or "shittin" or whatevers

If we can fit BabyGreggie in there somewhere, I'm game.

Week Four - 27 January - 2 February--- ACCOUNTABILITY

ACCOUNTABILITY
This is really what did it for me. As responsible, organized and accountable as I am, I could never frigging uphold the promise........ That's the bottom line and where the site comes into play.

As I said before I made a promise to a bunch of lunatics that I had never met and I kept it. The same promise that I had made before to my wife. The same promise that I had made a hundred times to myself. What gives????

Basically it's the people. On a daily basis I had over 50 nutcases looking after me. Telling me their stories. Craving with me. MAKING ME KEEP THAT PROMISE.

And I did...... for me (but also for them)

You've got to think about ACCOUNTABILITY night and day. Believe me you will when all you're thinking about is dipping.

Have your group keep track of who's posting and not. I did this for the FOQers for an extended period of time. I believe it helped and my fellow quitters agreed. The only ones that didn't like it were those that were not COMMITTED (see rule 1). Develop a buddy system. Who looks after who and who will notice if I haven't posted. You need that.

RULE FOR WEEK #4: Make a promise and be ACCOUNTABLE. POST ROLE EVERY FUCKING DAY!!!

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for that week

animal5473

More commen sense pandering from Dean the Animal. Loved this guy
Posted: Jan 29, 2009, 7:55 am
Eat More Beef. No more Dip.Group: MembersPosts: 1,755Member No.: 4,431Joined: 4-August 08
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Jan 28, 2009, 10:10 pm)
Now you fuckers have me confused? I thought thats what you were expected to do if you fucking caved -- man up to the fact you pussed out and caved and not let us hanging. Seems to me thats what I read when others caved before - - pick a month , they all have fuckin cavers in them. Seems all the "old guard" and brothers and sisters of their quit tells them to "man up."Now, your sending mixed messages - to me anyway. I'll play "this game" as you call it -- which I do not - its a life and death situation for me anyway. Just explain what terms we are to use and "play" by. I got my head wrapped around this quit a whole lot more than what you may think, I guess I just ain't a professional bitcher. I'll leave that up to many of you who do it so well. Know your bitchin at me means well but a big back

ND you are right this isn't a game. You don't need to follow anyone on how you treat the members in this group. You find your own way and use that as you. I know who i am and how i treat individuals. I don't have a persona I am who I am in real life. So keep up the good work ND you are doing exactly what you should be doing. Help everyone what ever way fits you. Good job and if you see anyone fall off keep on them. They will come back. It really does work. Stand beside them. Don't stand behind them. Walk beside them all the way. --------------------
WAS chewing for 25yrs. I quit forever now. I've beat drinking I have beat this. Time for the next level of my life. 100 days and counting, 1 day at a time that's all I expect. Pay it forward and no one left behind,

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builderchad

Senseless humor helped a bunch......

Posted: Jan 29, 2009, 8:08 pm
I am my own enemyGroup: MembersPosts: 1,434Member No.: 3,726Joined: 7-May 08

QUOTE (chanilla @ Jan 29, 2009, 4:58 pm)
Fatguysex.comFuck you you fuching cockless cocksucker(s)!

I know you like dogs

I know you fuck dogs

Change this shit, and show a real clit (just not your own) where'd the osama monkey go?

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greg40

Remember Rooster's trip into the wilderness and his almost cave??? Great inspiration but it did draw some more homosexual comparisons!!!

Posted: Feb 1, 2009, 7:28 pm
Suck me, beautiful!!Group: MembersPosts: 331Member No.: 5,844Joined: 6-December 08
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Feb 1, 2009, 4:20 pm)
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 1, 2009, 3:36 pm)
This past Saturday:I initially said I would be gone from vertully any way to post roll yesterday. See, I was out with several men on a winiter snowshoe trek and camp in late 1700s to arly 1800s style. Several years ago, a couple of these guys built a Mandan/ Hidatsa style earth lodge and so every winter we strap on our snowshows , load up out trains (proper word for tobaggon) with blankets, food and some "spirits", flintlock guns - to keep the natives at bay or maybe to add a rabbit to a stew for a 2 night 3 day weekend.This year I had intended to make a snow camp outside the lodge and upon arriving early found another hearty soul doing the same.. About dark 3 others came snowshoing in with word of a possible blizzard with sustained 40 mph winds and 50 -55 mph gusts working their way toward us Friday nite /Sat morning. That along with temps in the teens could be very dangerous so the other guy and myself forgone the better part of valor for wisdom and pulled our bedrolls into the earth lodge. The winds picked up shortly and about 11 pm 3 more souls came snowshoing in. One thing about it ..if it wasn't for the snowshoes you would not have been able to make the 2 mile trek into the lodge and much of the snow was crotch deep or deeper.anyway - we all socialized well into the late evening catching up on old times, sharing some spirits along the way. Saturday, I woke with a crave like none other I have ever had. fortunately only one guy was chewing and he knew my quit so he ninjad his dips. But it didn't stop the crave. About mid morning a fellow came snowshoing in (the father-in - law of one of the guys) and as we sat around the fire , lieing to each other and filling our faces with venison stews, dried venison, venison sausage and other variations of this fine meat -- this "father in law" pulled out a can and I heard the tap tap tap. That just about put me over the edge...knowing I could beg one. My mind was damn near overwhelmed. I was thinking 34 days was going to go to shit in one fell swoop...or pinch. WTF could I do.. it was blowing like crazy out - , but fortunately the snow was crusted so there wasn't a ground blizzard, but the wind made it damn raw to be outside. I did the only thing I could do. I strapped on my snowshoes to my moccasins, braved the 40 mph winds and treked back just about 2 miles back to my vehicle where I had my cell phone and service and texted iuchewie my oath to stay quit. I asked for a post to roll buit didn't see it today so it might not of arrived. After texting my quit. I shut the phone off , put it back in the glove compartment, loaded up my pocket with gum and headed back to camp. By the time I got back , I had no desire to dip and had no more triggers for the rest of the weekend.Would I have caved if I didn't make that personal sacrifice to change the scenery for awhile? I do not know. All I know is that the resolve to force myself to go tell someone I know has been through this shit before helped me get through this time..that day. It really does work if you feel such a trigger to talk /text one of our brothers or sisters of quit. All it took me was some sweat and 4 miles of snowshoeing in about 25 degree weather with 40 mph winds to cure me for the day! If this 52 year one eyed old fat man can do it there is no reason you young pups can't stay quit. No reason at all. I beleive April has as strong of resolve to stay quit as myself. I think that is just the kind of people we are. WORD brothers and sisters, WORD!Now I am off tho watch the super bowl with my brother, slam a few beers, and watch him be a slave to his nic bitch. But not me- not today!

DAMN Rooster - you are one tough old bastard. I love this!!Picturing you in your deer skin loin cloth and buffalo skin jacket with rabbit fur moccasins strapped to a 200 year old pair of snow shoes armed with a traditional musket hiking 4 miles in a blinding snow storm just to tell someone you are still quit - I AM SPEACHLESS. Well done my brother, well done.I've said it before - I'm not so sure that the importance of posting roll / giving your WORD EVERY DAY can be overstated. You my hearty friend just proved it.Where is the excuse to cave now bitches?

Great story, Rooster. Congrats on the strong fucking quit.I bet there were some very manly "Brokeback Mountain" moments in the earth lodge. --------------------
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Smokeyg

Smokes, explains addiction like no one else.

Posted: Jan 30, 2009, 1:04 pm
super whoreGroup: MembersPosts: 2,900Member No.: 307Joined: 10-June 07
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Jan 30, 2009, 8:55 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 30, 2009, 10:31 am)
I have to tell this story.My wife - God bless her - can sometimes get herself in to pretty good situations by talking before thinking. Keep in mind, she is a real smart gal - masters degree, in the medical profession but sometimes I really wonder about her.Last night at dinner, somehow the topic of my quit came up. I was telling her how I have gained 7 pounds since I quit and am working hard to get rid of it. Out of the blue I get something to this effect:"I just don't get it. For years I have been telling you over and over how bad that stuff is for you, giving you all sorts of reasons why you should quit. How bad it is for your health, the impacts it has on our family and your kids - pleading with you to quit for years. One day, you get a call from HYDRO (she actually used his real name...) and just like that, you quit FOR HIM. Why is he so much more important than me, your family, your health our marriage."I was laughing pretty good at this point. After I realized that my laughing wasn't helping the situation, I calmly offered to start back up the can a day habit for her just so I could quit again some time in the future just FOR HER.LMFAO - what is it with women?Moral of the story - I NEVER WANTED TO QUIT. Now that I got sucked in here and have been made accountable to all you fuckers, I got no choice. I have to stay the course now. Oddly enough, I actually like the quit now that I've quit for the right reasons (ME).Quick thanks to HYDRO for pissing my wife off by getting me to quit
Thats a great story. I'm glad you've stuck with it, April wouldn't be the same w/out the king of funk.

Man, I've tried to explain this whole quitting thing to people and it's just something you've got to go through to fully understand. A few of my friends asked me the other day if I was "addicted" to nicotine and when I said "hell yes" they couldn't believe it and just shook their heads. Such a dirty word. They were also extremely surprised to hear that I was part of any support group. If they haven't been there, they can't know what it takes. My wife and I rarely talk about my quit. It caused so much conflict between us in the past, we just let what's working keep on working. She gives me my space and never complains about this site (rarely). Leave it at that.

Week Five - 3 - 9 Feb--- FIRST TIMES

I was beginning to see a pattern. EVERYTHING was a FIRST for me..........

The first time I had ever played guitar or a concert without a dip in.......
The first time I had ever skiied without a dip.........
The first time I had ever paid the bills without a dip........
The first time I had ever cleaned out the garage without a dip.....

Each FIRST brought about different cravings, feelings and emotions. I handled all of them. Sometimes quietly, sometimes speaking to my wife about them, sometimes talking with my friends on KTC about them. Sometimes a PM or call to JPCrew.

I got through them all but they were hard. I felt better after each.

If you've dipped for over 30 years, EVERYTHING will be a first for you. At least until you complete a year. Be prepared for them. The closest I ever came to caving was on day 103. The weather was nice and I went out to work in the garden for the FIRST time that year. It hit me like a ton of bricks. This was the FIRST time I had ever gardened without dip.

Be prepared and think through your seasons and days.

RULE FOR WEEK # 5: Anticipate FIRSTS and deal with them. Think ahead get a plan (see rule 8)

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for that week
Some posts that week that caught my eye:

11X4
I loved this and still love this. WE DON'T TRY AND QUIT HERE!!!!!1
We don't try here, we quit. We don't make half assed attempts, we draw lines in the sand each day, lines that WILL NOT be crossed. Many quitters here are quit for life but they are biting off that life one day at a time. That is tangible. You can give your word to not use tobacco today, and you can keep that word. - 11 x 4, Nov 4, 2008.
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builderchad
My, my can't we rant when we're in the funk!!!!
Posted: Feb 4, 2009, 11:26 pm
I am my own enemyGroup: MembersPosts: 1,434Member No.: 3,726Joined: 7-May 08
QUOTE (Wildcat99 @ Feb 4, 2009, 12:27 pm)
QUOTE (builderchad @ Feb 4, 2009, 12:53 pm)
If I asked u for permission to stick a dip in your lip, would you give it? How about I don't need your permission. How about I just hop my stinking cancer causing ass right up there, part those fleshly healed lips, squeeze in there and let my venom numb your senses and make those funks go away. Just 1 fucking more of me and it'll all go away. -your old pal nicky the dipFuck you. I see you at the store, I hear you calling me, lifting your skirt, showing some skin. Our time is up. You come near any other sense other than sight and I will take all that I have and ram all that I am down your throat and steal your soul. I love funks, they remind me that I AM IN CONTROL, NOT SOME FUCKED UP PLANT, PROCESSED BY A FUCKED UP COMPANY, PACKAGED IN A FUCKED UP EASY TO CARRY CAN. I am the master now. THE FUNK REMINDS ME OF THIS. -O B MOTHERFUCKIN C

Well put... but, i still reserve the right to be pissed about the funk.

Reserve the right? Dude, you had better get pissed at having the funk. I don't know anyone who likes it, just helps to know that being a funky nicless fuck is better than being a nic funk fuck...I nearly lost it at work today... there were reasons, although not great ones. I had the sales mgr in my office and while typing a response to a pissed off e-mail she asked a question... well, I responded by hold on, I'm having to send this e-mail b/c I am fucking PISSED! She excused herself, laughed about it later...I felt bad, but damn I was pissed...If I ONLY could've gotten here and found Jpuss...
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corn69
Some support and postive reinforcements from the long timers REALLY, REALLY helps. I'm sitting here feeling sorry for myself and this comes from CORN69
Posted: Feb 5, 2009, 11:26 am
I AM QUITGroup: MembersPosts: 1,991Member No.: 1,980Joined: 5-February 08
Just wanted to stop in and say Congradulations. The majority of this group has made it a month or more. Well fuckin done. You never thought you could do it did you. Great Job. Now it is gut check time. You think you have the bitch whupped. YOU DON"T. She will stop by every so often and tap you on the shoulder. She will be wearing that sexy little black thing with her nipples pokin out and whisper sweet somethings in your ear. When this happens, it is best to slowly turn around and knock the bitch to the curb. Bitch, I don't need you anymore. Keep you guard up quitters. The fight is still on. Well done through the 1st stage of your quit. Remember you are an addict. You have been an addict for many years. It will take some time to get over it. I am proud to be associated with this fine group of quitters.
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JpCrew
Remember when ArmyPatt changed his name to JPCrew??? Holy shit the walls came down!!!
Funny as hell
Posted: Feb 9, 2009, 4:17 pm
Apr. '09 HOF CuratorGroup: MembersPosts: 742Member No.: 6,169Joined: 7-January 09
I just wanted to let all of you know that I changed my screen name to JpCrew from Armypatt.Why? Every account that I have online; myspace, AOL, your mom, uses JpCrew. So I wanted to be consistant. Why JpCrew? My name is Jon Patton (Jp) and the Crew part comes from 'if you're my friend, then you're part of the Crew, the Jp Crew'. Get it? It's gay I know.When I firts started here, I couldn't get into the quit groups with out a screen name. So since I was quiting, I was in the fog real bad. So I came up with Army as I couldn't think of anything quick. I didn't realize i would use it for everything. Until 35 days later when i got out of the fog.I guess I was tired of looking at my past and not at where I am now or the future.Yes, I was a badass mother fucker in the Army. So What? Yes, I could kill you in less than 6 seconds. So what? I'm still as patriotic today as I was when I first went in. I still get furious when people move or talk when they play the national anthem during games. But I just didn't want to be that guy who lives in the past all the time. Kinda like my quit. Who cares that I chewed Copenhagen everyday for the past 15 years. I needed a wake up call to stop looking at that and focus on my new life without chew and how much fun I'm going to have and all the support I'm getting from you guys and the firends I'm making here.So I guess I'm asking for your support with this small change. Thanks again for your guys supportJon
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theo3wood
Wow, even the old timers have this shit. I hope mine ends.
Posted: Feb 10, 2009, 10:22 am
Living the dreamGroup: MembersPosts: 979Member No.: 4,411Joined: 31-July 08
A few words on persistence: From the moment I first got my quit on nearly 200 days ago, I completely embraced my addiction, admitting to myself and everybody else that I'm an addict who will never be safe having "just one" dip. And as I've watched some very seasoned quitters cave, I've openly wondered what the hell they were thinking. Many seemed to have convinced themselves that they'd somehow become 'recreational' dippers again---impossible for an addict. I never bought that shit. I KNOW I can't ever dip again. So it was with no small amount of surprise that I woke up in a sweat this morning, recalling the nastiest dip dream I've had so far: in this dream, I actually thought about dipping again, and made a conscious decision to do it. No stress, no triggers; just decided that I'd like to dip again, just for a weekend.Why am I sharing this? Because I know my quit is very, very strong. I think of my quit as a matter of life and death, and I guard it like the pure gold that it is. I'm fully convinced that my next lipper will be the one that kills me dead and leaves my young daughters fatherless. Yet, despite that resolve, and over six months since dipping, the nic bitch still lingers in the corners of my mind. And last night, as I slept, she actually convinced me that it would be okay to break my quit, "just for a weekend".Brothers & sisters, you can never, ever again let your guard down. Nic tried to kill you, and will ALWAYS want your head on a platter. This is a death match, and your opponent doesn't fight fair. You'll never be completely safe. But that's okay, as long as you realize it, be alert, and persistent, and rely on the ACCOUNTABILITY you find here. ...theo

Week Six - 10-16 Feb--- LOVE

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LOVE - Remember the crazy red "x"s on the site for Valentines Day?

Use this week to focus on the things you LOVE.
In my heart, the love I have for my wife blazes strong.....
But why could she not understand what I was going through??
I hated her for this. I hated her for not understanding what I was experiencing.

Do not let this Hate begin to dominate your thoughts. Focus on your loved ones and share with them in a constructive way what you're going through. They will appreciate it and love you more. Don't hide away from them or even the things you love to do.

I had heard from some people on the site to avoid drinking or "triggers" for the first month or so. Probably sound advice but don't avoid them now. HIT THEM HEAD ON. The things you loved to do were probably triggers. They were for me. Exercise?? I loved it..... but I also loved a big fat dip after a good long run. See what I mean?

RULE FOR WEEK #6: Focus on LOVED ones and the things you LOVE TO DO. Do them nic free

P.S. I love you, hon. Happy Valentines Day

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for the week.
Some Posts from that week:

The JPCrew/Armypatt dialogue continued!
Lance from SD made an appearance.......
Remember all the red "x"s that showed up this week.

Annonymous Quitter
Hi I am dip. I quit Jan 1st I hope this site gets better... I just found it a few days ago and could really use the help. I am not looking for a verbal bashing session.

This guy didn't last!!! If you don't want a verbal bash then stay the fuck home and chew.
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Caving is not an option, Do something else.
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imaquitter
Our number kept looking good. Better than what I expected.
Posted: Feb 11, 2009, 11:00 pm
the FOQers have 36 quitters posted so far on the day, fuckin A, thats awesome --------------------
Chinese proverb: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single stepQuit date 1-1-09
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kd4jet
Some of hadn't taken a shit in 5 weeks practically!!! Awwww.... the joys of quitting.

Posted: Feb 12, 2009, 8:40 pm
kd4jetGroup: MembersPosts: 2,281Member No.: 4,388Joined: 29-July 08
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Feb 12, 2009, 4:25 pm)
QUOTE (ScubaSteve @ Feb 12, 2009, 2:19 pm)
QUOTE (chanilla @ Feb 12, 2009, 4:14 pm)
just rocked the shit out of an ap euro history test, i love seeing all these things that we CAN do without tobacco.
Way to go Chilla!! Didn't think you could study without a fat lip, huh? I must say, i never had the opportunity to try that when I was in college, so way to go...Kick that shit to the curb!

Damn, I never had that opportunity in college either. I would find a remote little cubby somewhere in the library so I could chew undisturbed. I have to poop really bad right now and it feels like my first three days of quitting, only in my ass.

To much info !!!
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CopeFiend
Posted: Feb 14, 2009, 9:58 am
Quit is PowerGroup: MembersPosts: 2,092Member No.: 4,978Joined: 30-September 08
QUOTE (chanilla @ Feb 14, 2009, 3:00 am)
And what's with the red X avatars?
Red X's are in a lot of places, e.g. avatars, smilies, post meter.....either the board got hacked, the server lost a disk, or something else. Some avatars seemed to have survived. --------------------
Quit Date 10/07/08, 5:00pm I was a fiend about Copenhagen. My habit hurt my friendships and relationships. And my health."Tobacco is the only consumer product which when used as directed kills its consumer." -- Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland

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Wildcat99
Posted: Feb 13, 2009, 8:18 pm

"Quit looking at me swan"Group: MembersPosts: 724Member No.: 6,088Joined: 1-January 09
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 13, 2009, 4:36 pm)
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Just got back from the store... had to go pic up some valentine candy for my 5 yr old daughter. Made a quick trip to the gas station because i was in a hurry. The dude behind the counter that rang me up had an enormous dip in his mouth. It made me wonder, briefly, how good that friggin dip was tasting. Then I realized that the poor bastard was sucking on cancer and I am just not interested in that poison anymore.So with that in mind, have a great nicotine free weekend you bunch of quittin FOQers. I will eat little candy hearts this weekend .WORD!!Wild-quit99

Ain't it amazing how we notice who is doin a fattie and how we are realize what the shit is doing to others now that we are quitters!Enjoy the little candy hearts but more so enjoy a Valentines quit day with your precious daughter who has a Dad that is now doing everything in his power not to cut his life short for himself and for her!Way to Rock - wildcat99! Word!

Amen brother... we see all sorts of shit now that we are quit!! Especially when you look at it like a ninja

Week Seven - 17-23 Feb--------- ATTITUDE

Winter was in full force in CT during WEEK 7.
The attributes of Winter were full force in my mind......

My brain was snowy.....
My eyes were foggy.....
My temper like a N'or easter

Things were not fun......Yet I stuck to the site and learned from others. My participation continued and it kept me going.

Despite the "winter" attitude I remained postive.

ATTITUDE IS 100% of the cure. When things are not going your way or people are pissing you off focus on your attitude. No one can make you feel down. Only you have that ability.
So instead of moaning your cave dream or work or anything else turn your attitude around. It's a lot easier going through this with a good attitude!


RULE FOR WEEK #7: Winter will someday change to Spring. Keep a great ATTITUDE. You're the only one that has that ability.
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Some Highlights & Posts from that week:
- Rooster hit 50 days!!

Jpcrew:
I took a mandatory 4% pay cut at work today and then they added another "project" to my work load last week. I feel like going and getting some copenhagen to make the bad man go away. Fuck I hate all of you for not letting me. You can all go fuck yourselves.

SWJ I believe

- I am all wound up like a fucking convict. If JPINE walks into my office I will bend him over and stick it in his ass until he is screaming to make the pain stop and then he will curl over into a fetal position and start sucking his thumb wishing he was in his mommy's lap.
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Scooterscum (quoting 7irons HOF speech I believe)

Congratulations on a month free of tobacco. You should be proud of yourself for you have fought hard and succeeded at doing something few have attempted and even fewer have accomplished. Do not lose focus and do not let your guard down. You cannot coast, but you can draw strength from the success of the first month and allow that confidence to propel you into the second.I should also warn you that many have experienced a boredom phase during the second month. I hit the bored stretch right at 50 days. Something changed in the life of my quit where I just got tired of everything. Tired of reading, tired of posting, tired of thinking, tired of quitting ... I just ran out of steam. I started to really struggle and had a “is this really worth it?” attitude. "Perhaps a short hiatus from this quit - get my mind and my life settled a bit, then I'll start again." Part of me just wanted to give in and go back to the can. Lots of lies were being told within the confines of my mind, but I recognized them as lies. The truth remained that I was better off without tobacco. I KNEW I was - I really did, but my mind kept trying to play tricks on me.You see, during the first 30 days, each day is tough for its own reasons, but it's like we have a real enemy to wage war against. There is "fuel" to keep us fighting and staying motivated is relatively easy.Where are you in your quit? 30, 40, 50 days? This has been hard ... THE hardest thing you've ever done, right? Certainly you are tired, exhausted. You have every right to be. This is hard, demanding work. You get no breaks - you must continue to fight ... every day, morning, noon and night through every trigger, every stress and all the boredom. Everything you used to do, your entire life, involved tobacco. It made boring tasks bearable. It helped perk you up when you were groggy. It helped calm you down when you were stressed. It made the good times more enjoyable.Lies, lies, lies ... and you believed them ... all of them.Now you know better, but you have been conditioned for so long ... 10, 20, 30 years or more. It is going to take time brothers. The last 30, 40 or 50 days seem like a lifetime. I know. I went through it too.In order to get through this boredom phase you need to keep your quit alive. Remember why you quit. Remember what tobacco has taken from you. Your health, your money, time away from your friends and family, your self respect, peace of mind ... the list goes on. Doesn't that piss you off? It should!!!!Use that to keep your quit alive. It is important that you remember the difficulties of quitting. You need to make sure that the pain and heartache you are currently experiencing are never forgotten. Our minds, over time, have a way of softening the hard edges. There is nothing soft or easy about quitting smokeless tobacco. Commit to memory the agony of these first few weeks.That being said, the first month probably felt like three. I remember constantly looking at my watch wondering how time could possibly be going so slow. It is important that you also recognize this principle ... "every step away from tobacco is one step closer to freedom." You need to simply put some distance between yourself and your past associations with snuff. Build dip free memories and by so doing, you will be breaking the strings that tie you to your tobacco past.This is an important one too ... "the only thing tobacco is good for, is keeping you addicted to tobacco!" You need to realize that you simply do not need tobacco. It will not make you a better athlete, business person, sibling or parent. It may seem like it helps you, but all it really will do is elevate your blood pressure, raise your heart rate, make you more prone to anxiety and increase your risk of cancer.Also, there are lots of new quitters joining every day. Remember your first week? They could use some help, an encouraging word, someone to let them know that their experiences are normal and understandable. Lending a hand to a brother or sister in need will help keep your quit at front and center.

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tfurrh

Aren't we all just so articulate in the fog??
Posted: Feb 17, 2009, 6:29 pm
I may look like a King, but I'm really the Duke.Group: MembersPosts: 1,769Member No.: 5,716Joined: 25-November 08
QUOTE (Moe Man @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:27 pm)
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:20 pm)
QUOTE (Moe Man @ Feb 17, 2009, 2:18 pm)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:13 pm)
QUOTE (Moe Man @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:10 pm)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:07 pm)
April, i like the vets coming in here.....Smoke, Monty, Jpine, WhoDey, even BabbyGreggie they all make me laugh, or pissed, but it takes my mind off quitting....kinda the purpose of the site.I cringe everytime someone tells them to go away....what if they do?

Why don't you just go ahead and blow them TFurr.

I was going to say, "Blow Man, why don't you blow me!" But I will refrain from responding to you.

I'd rather eat a furburger than blow a man so I am no help for you Tfurrh. Maybe Monty will blow you

Would you rather eat a shitburger than blow a man?

Now you just aren't making any sense Smoke. You know what they say? Where there is smoke somebody is blowing Monty.

and where there is Moe Man, There is a dick up Monty's ass.

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Moeman

I always liked this quote from Moeman. Speaks of personal responsibility and not making excuses to me.

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Don't tell me about the storm;Tell me you brought the ship home

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Smokeyg

Just plain funny shit. A laugh can really help

Posted: Feb 17, 2009, 12:04 pm
super whoreGroup: MembersPosts: 2,900Member No.: 307Joined: 10-June 07
QUOTE (builderchad @ Feb 17, 2009, 7:59 am)
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Feb 17, 2009, 8:52 am)
QUOTE (builderchad @ Feb 17, 2009, 7:45 am)
Well, funks' not as bad today, probably cause I'm just dead tired. No sleep again, wow this just sucks, but still not as bad as a sore mouf. Don't post any wiseass remarks today smukes, I'm just too tired to pole vault your ass. As for 65 congrats on 3rd floor and sweenz is right behind! OBC (still hate that ballscity name stealing poser) out.

I love you.

You know me all too well. You knew something to bitch about would make me feel better. Too bad jpuss or ready wasn't around. I guess montys been trying to be an instigator but all I just can't get excited over that. I wish ed would bring back that damn phone call about brent buying a blow-up doll

Try to find that blow-up doll post from Ed.

Week Eight - 24 Feb - 2 March--- PLAN

ALONE......
All alone during Week 8
During the day while I worked it was always a struggle to stay away from the dip. In the evening it was a different story as I had my family to spend time with and remain distracted.

This week was different. My wife and son were going back to Colorado to visit family and I would be all alone during the evening. Probably eating bad and having a couple of drinks.

A perfect recipe for caving........

And it was tough. This week let me put into execution what I had heard a hundred times before: HAVE A PLAN!!!! Dean/Animal used to repeat this over and over

Sometimes I felt like I was bored out of my skull. Ultimately, I came up with other distractions that took my mind off the dip. It worked and by the end of the week I welcomed my family back still quit..........

RULE FOR WEEK #8: HAVE A PLAN for the times you'll be alone and/or the times you'll be in a situation that may be a trigger. Carry around your buddy's phone numbers and emails. Make calls and don't ever think about caving..
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Highlights/Post and thoughts from that week


Big Brother Jack - QUIT + 1 ...

"The man who is aware of himself is henceforward independent; and he is never bored, and life is only too short, and he is steeped through and through with a profound yet temperate happiness. " Richard M. Nixon --------------------

QUIT to LIVE - LIVE to QUIT "
Just because we cannot see clearly the end of the road, that is no reason for not setting out on the essential journey. On the contrary, great change dominates the world, and unless we move with change we will become its victims ."-Robert F.Kennedy
"Never quit. It is the easiest cop-out in the world. Set a goal and don't quit until you attain it. When you do attain it, set another goal, and don't quit until you reach it. Never quit !" Bear Bryant...
Never QUIT the "QUIT" Gents and Ladies !! The HOF is your first attainable Goal , after the HOF set a higher Goal till you attain again ...repeat indefinatley .......Big Brother Jack.... QUIT + 1 ....

Highlights and Posts from that week.
- TCOPE hits fucking 50 days!!!
- Southersteeler and Trapper join the group
- Censorship on the KTC site??? It was considered????






ndrooster1
Posted: Feb 26, 2009, 3:50 pm
RoosterGroup: MembersPosts: 792Member No.: 6,112Joined: 3-January 09

what is the new rule? The link is broken, maybe they are rethinking things[

Announcement for all Members:Please read

im not for OR against this new rule because i understand the purpose behind it - we don't want new quitters (with delicate egos) to be run off the site and go back to dipping.on theother hand, if a quitter gets banned from the site based on this rule, aren't they just as likely to revert to tobacco use as the one who left with a sore (insert another non-offensive word for female genitalia here)?damned if you do and damned if you dont i guess.

Moe Man - the link is not broken - you just have to relog in to get to it.I will play by whatever riules are set up to make this work.
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SWJ
Talk of cave dreams haunted the posts. I had not had one but then again I never remember my dreams.
Posted: Feb 24, 2009, 11:01 am
F - M - F - M - FGroup: MembersPosts: 267Member No.: 6,234Joined: 13-January 09
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Feb 24, 2009, 7:14 am)
Anyone else being haunted by CAVE dreams? Holy shit the past 2 nights, I have had dreams that I caved. Just woke up from a nap and had a third cave dream. They always go the same way. In my dream - they are very short - I am walking down a dirt road and am tired from something. I am smoking a cigarette every time - never any dip. I get about 2/3 of the way through the cig and absolutely PANIC that I have caved. I always think that I automatically smoked the cig "forgetting" that I quit nic, gave my word and without even thinking, had lit up the smoke. I wake up all sweaty and depressed. Only lasts a few minutes but man does it ever suck.I've been sleeping like shit despite working out like a mad man. I also made a decision to leave the seeds at home and break that habit/cycle while overseas so nothing but an occasional piece of gum.Anyone else having these dreams?

I haven't had any dreams like this yet.And I'm not qualified to surmise what they might mean.They might mean you have a tumor.But they might also mean that you're just a regular dude kicking ass on the 62nd Day. This post has been edited by SWJ on Feb 24, 2009, 11:02 am
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Tfurrh
This scared the hell out of me. Caved twice. Could that happen to me???
No way could I ever come back to the site. Kudos to Tfurrh for coming back and making it.
Posted: Feb 23, 2009, 7:15 pm
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Feb 23, 2009, 1:09 pm)
QUOTE (SWJ @ Feb 23, 2009, 1:51 pm)
QUOTE (Tfurrh screwed the pooch)

TFurrh - 63 - today would be my 100, I caved at 9, then again at 28.

Way to not suck (three times in a row), Tfurrh.Seriously, every day from here on out is a milestone, bro.

Yeah...I know I joke around on here a bunch, but I feel great. I went out last weekend it was my first time in a bar since I quit. I got shit faced. I almost caved. actually I was going to cave, but my friend stopped me from lighting up a cigarette. Anyway, I went out again this wkd to Shreveport, LA....Mardi Gras. . I had a blast, but I hardly drank, and the group I went with all smoked like a log. But I didn't even flinch. Point is, I couldn't have made it without ya'll holding me accountable. On my first attempt, I made it nine days without this site, and with no support. With next cave, I had NO idea that my it would bring out such a reaction on this site. I went through a hardcore bitching. It made me value my word though, that's something I had never done before. In a small way, I feel like I have manned up, and once again....thanks to all.
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Moe Man
Lots of people took heat from the vets. I took what I needed like Moeman and Mike1228 and listened and learned.
Posted: Feb 26, 2009, 5:19 pm
Motorboatin Son of a Bitch, You sailor You.Group: MembersPosts: 208Member No.: 6,076Joined: 31-December 08
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 26, 2009, 3:57 pm)
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QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 26, 2009, 2:41 pm)
T dunno.. the "old" way grew on me after a while....desensitized my sorry ass to the bullshit written here..finally got it how it helped keep me from thinking about my craves, helped our group gel as a group..look how we defended our fellow quitters at times of "assumed attacks". Hell I even got to like some of the old farts that were laying the shit on pretty thick. I took what I needed from the postings and left the rest. Now that ain't saying shit written here won't get me riled.. I just think a bout it before I post back right away. Less shootin from the hip so to speak.the only drawback I had about the extreme posts is that the work "fuck" crept back into my vocabulary on a regular basis. that isn't so good according to my bride. Like I said , I'll work with whatever works in this site to help keep me off the shit. Be it Extreme posts or everyone singing kumbyya (well maybe not so much the later...) my concern is the new ruling will make everyone just start posting roll and thats it because they will be gun shy if what they want to say is too extreme. that would really fuck this site up.I'd like some of that stale jerky from your mom and pop store now Smokeyg..oh and how about some of those expired Poptarts.

I agree, I am one of those people who had to live almost 24hrs a day on this site the first month. I knew as long as I was on this site I would not cave, so I was almost afraid to log off. All the drama really helped keep it interseting and kept me tuned in. I really think without all the drama I would have quit being involved and probably would have caved. That being said I also agree with you on the language Rooster. I am catching myself saying words, that I haven't used since high school. Now I have to go search for a support site to help with the cussing.
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