The FOQers April 2009

2011-12-03T20:02:00.001-05:00

TCOPE'S Top 10 Reasons for Being quit on Christmas

1. Don't have to worry about knocking the spitter over on the new carpet 50 times while being sprawled out trying to put together the latest toy for kid

2. Sugar cookies don't have brown stain marks on them

3. Cool gifts and stocking stuffers fit in my stocking now that I don't need to have a 10 can sleeve in there.

4. Is that my Jack and Coke or my spitter?

5. Santa claus can actually drink the cup of milk we put out for him without worrying if the spit and copenhagen were washed out

6. No more lying about having to run out to the store to get more "batteries" on Christmas Eve because I ran out of copenhagen and the stores are closed on Xmas.

7. Our sledding hill in the backyard is not covered with brown spots this year.

8. Don't have to pull the Santa beard to the side every 30 seconds to spit….

9. Going out to select our Christmas tree is not limited to just how long I can go without a dip.

10. No more christmas shopping in the malls and having to find an empty store aisle where I can spit a puddle cause I forgot my spitter.

The 4th Annual PA Get Together in the Poconos...

2011-11-14T06:51:00.001-05:00

11-13 November 2011

What a weekend. What an amazing group of people.....

Here’s to all of you…..

From near and Far

A Drink to camaraderie

A Drink to a common cause

A Drink to a common battle….

A Drink to Kill The Can

Here’s to all of you

So drink up bitches….

Thanks for saving my life

One day at a time….

Signed

The God of Hell fire

TCOPE

sadjr111, hippie princess, just keep dancing, btdogboy

Left to right: Franpro, Chewie, Keddy, Florida Luke

The house band: Kneeling then left to right: Theo3wood, BBJ, Hippie Princess, TCOPE on harp

Antelope and deer......

The poker tournament

The Houston TX contingent brought the state flags....

Left to Right 1st row: Clampy, Theo3wood, Btdogboy, Souliman, Chewie
2nd and Back Row: Hydro, TCOPE, Hippie Princess, Chewmonkey, JustKeepDancing, LastChance, Keddy, Franpro, Big Brother Jack, Husker06484, Samcat, Kdip, 30yrAddict, Sadjr111, 2manycans

Franpro, TCOPE, BBJ

The QSX Endurance Club members at the meet: LtoR: Souliman, Sadjr111, 2manycans, Big Brother Jack, Hydro, TCOPE, Rebeldog

Hydro and BBJ

Homemade wine and shine....

30yrAddict and Keddy,,,

Sadjr111, 30yrAddict, Florida Luke, BBJ, Keddy, Samcat

Chewmonkey and BBJ....

1,000 days down..... The Comma

2011-10-28T05:37:00.000-04:00

Thought I'd just pen some quick thoughts at 1000 days....(actually 1026)....
Life is good. I'm going thru some pretty big stress right now in my life but never has the idea of running out for a dip crossed my mind. I am still fairly active on the site but not perhaps as much as this time last year. A lot is going on. It's good to still see so many FOQers in April 09 still posting up. At last count there were:
Wildcat
Ron
Rkymtnman
Trapper
NKT
Jpcrew
PBKid
ndrooster
Moeman
BigDBingo

Pretty good crowd for quitters coming up on 3 years...

Having the comma feels pretty damn good..
TCOPE - 28 October 2011

KTC Summer Get Together 6 August 2011

2011-08-07T09:56:00.000-04:00

Uncle Bubba manning the grill....

LazyTrader (Jeffrey)

The Spread....

Big Brother Jack in the house....

Souliman (Soul) and Balls City (R.J.) on the porch...

BigDBingo.... he really is big!!

Husker06484 (Pat) & d45murf (Don)

Souliman and Balls City again...

BBJ in a rare moment....

The Spread Part II

KTC and the Sunshine Band (Big Brother, BigDBingo, & TCOPE left to right)

I shall rock you.....

New England KTC Quitter Get Together

2011-05-19T09:29:00.007-04:00

Make sure you also go here and sign up in addition to this site: KTC Quitter Get Togethers...

Here are the early details.

Date: 6 August Saturday
Location: Redding, CT and the home of TCOPE
Start time: 11am for those wanting to hike/run and 1:30pm for those that are lazy.
End time: ???

General Plan:
11am - 1pm--------- Anyone desiring some physical activity will meet up at a designated point near TCOPE'S house. 3 or 6 mile hiking loop options will be offered. Great trails and views. Work up an appetite

1:30pm ------- Those hiking travel to TCOPES house and those not hiking meet up as well.

1:30 - ???? Swim Party Backyard romp with BBQ Pot luck -
- Yard games
- Swimming Pool
- Pond and beach
- Fishing
- BBQ championship
- Poker by moonlight
- Possibility of live music
- TCOPE in a Hula skirt.........

Redding CT is conveniently located for the majority of New England Quitters
We are 1 - 1.25 hrs from NYC; 3 hours from Boston on I84

Lodging Recommendations: I would personally suggest something up around Danbury. That is approximately 14 miles from my house.
Options include
- Courtyard Danbury
- Best Western Hotel Danbury/Bethel
- Holiday Inn Hotel Danbury
- Microhotel Inn & Suites hotel Danbury
Other possibilities include lodging in Fairfield, CT or Bridgeport, CT.

More details to come but for right now let's get a count on people that can make this time/location.
TCOPE

Don't drink and don't get a rash.....

2011-03-17T18:31:00.002-04:00

800 Days Down

2011-03-16T09:39:00.000-04:00

Thought I'd post these thoughts on hitting 800 days.......
An analogy but perfect as far as I'm concerned.....

keep it going....
think of your quit like being a fugitive from the law in the wild west.... one day at a time. one day at a time puts you one more day ahead of the sherrif (nic bitch).... you have to keep moving or your dead... keep advancing. keep planning. reset goals. adapt to each day. just KEEP MOVING...... one day at a time......

one day you'll know you're free. It doesn't mean the sheriff has stopped looking but you still know you're free.......
TCOPE

Dynasty's HOF speech on Youtube

2011-03-14T09:57:00.002-04:00

Pretty enlightening don't you think?

In response to signal's question......

2011-03-03T19:57:00.000-05:00

Aw.... signal, you had to ask the question......

FOQers Posting Roll Statistics as of 27 Feb 2011

2011-02-27T05:32:00.004-05:00

Quitter Last Activity Days since
rkymtnman 26-Feb-2011 1
Trapper 26-Feb-2011 1
Wildcat99 26-Feb-2011 1
TCOPE 26-Feb-2011 1
NKT 26-Feb-2011 1
Pbkid 26-Feb-2011 1
ndrooster 25-Feb-2011 2
MoeMan 25-Feb-2011 2
BigDBingo 25-Feb-2011 2
camojfk 25-Feb-2011 2
RoyJester 24-Feb-2011 3
JpCrew 22-Feb-2011 5
BigHoss44 17-Feb-2011 10
ScubaSteve 15-Feb-2011 12
Dutch 1-Feb-2011 26
Niwot 29-Jan-2011 29
JK17 1-Dec-2010 88
Ron3775 13-Nov-2010 106
imaquitter 28-Sep-2010 152
OBC 18-Sep-2010 162
nbrady 30-Aug-2010 181
squeaky 20-Jul-2010 222
Mike1228 2-Jun-2010 270
SWJ 17-May-2010 286
buddyboy 18-Feb-2010 374
Southersteeler 28-Nov-2009 456
2jet 18-Nov-2009 466
Bengalsgirl08 29-Oct-2009 486
edromero 27-Aug-2009 549
Chrisman31 21-Aug-2009 555
burmie 4-Jun-2009 633
ob1541 26-May-2009 642
abrown 25-Apr-2009 673

2 year quit letter written by Aaron/Wildcat to his son.....

2010-12-30T16:49:00.001-05:00

Wildcat99 Posted: Dec 30, 2010, 1:37 pm

word.

Group: Members
Posts: 2,406
Member No.: 6,088
Joined: 1-January 09

Hey doods... wanted to share something with you... my son (oldest one--10 years old) always tells me that he "saved my life". Actually, it's true--i don't know if i would have quit if he wouldn't have asked me to. Anyway, i wrote a letter to him which i will give him tomorrow after i post up 2 years!! Here is the letter...
_________________________________________________________________
Jameson,
2 years ago, you asked me to quit chewing. You told me that it was bad for me and that you didn’t want me to do it anymore. I didn’t want to let you down… I decided to try and quit, for myself first of all but also for you. I knew it would be hard to quit—tobacco/nicotine is a very serious addiction. At the same time though, it was also hurting my body by using it and that fact was actually something I just ignored for 13 years. The whole 13 years I chewed, I never once tried to quit… I didn’t want to. Mommy wanted me to quit but she didn’t ever push me—she just said it was yucky and she wished I didn’t do it. I should have listened to her, but I didn’t. Over the years, people always said I needed to quit, but I didn’t listen. For me, it was a habit… a habit that I actually enjoyed. However, I completely ignored the fact that it was an addiction—a poison that was shortening my life and had the power to end my life if I kept doing it. How selfish of me. I am sorry.

I am glad that you spoke up. I used to laugh because you would say to me “daddy, why do you always eat tobacco”…When you asked me to quit 2 years ago I thought, “yea—I can do this”. It will take some serious commitment, focus, determination and will power but I’m a strong person so I should be able to knock this out. You, mommy and your brother and sister were very supportive of me throughout the ups and downs as I vowed to quit—one day at a time. You know one other thing that helps me a ton is that silly website I am on so much (killthecan.org). You see, that place is filled with people just like me that are trying to rid their lives of nicotine. So, I go there for support too… and, it has been a huge help. Has it been easy to quit??? NO way man. It is probably the hardest thing I have ever done. Does it get easier as time goes by? Yes, but it is still a challenge every day. When I think about chew or have a craving for one, I remind myself of you and all the reasons I quit—that is what keeps me going each day!!

I guess one of the reasons I tell you this is because someday, you will be faced with a decision. You will have a choice to make. I promise you that at some point in your life somebody will offer you some form of tobacco. It may be chew or a cigarette or some other form… but, I guarantee you that you will be approached. I’m going to ask you to think of me when that day comes… think about how long I used tobacco and how I quit. Think of the harm it did to me and the struggle it was to quit and how evil the addiction is. You asked me to quit… I’m asking you to never start! But, you are much better than me son, so I know it will never be an issue with you.

For the past 730 days (that’s 2 years) I have had a new addiction—Quitting tobacco!!! Every day, normally just as soon as I get up and at my computer, I go to killthecan.org. I give my word to all of those complete strangers that I will not use tobacco that day. That layer of accountability strengthens my resolve and takes using tobacco for that day completely out of play because I will not break my word. In addition though, when I give my word to those people, I am giving my word to you that I will not use tobacco. My word is bond Jameson. You will never truly understand how meaningful it is to me that you had the courage to confront my nasty habit and ask me to give it up. You will never understand exactly what kind of positive impact that had on my life. I am a better person without tobacco and I owe that to you.

As a small gift I want you to have this little poker chip. I bought two of these—one for me, one for you. It is from killthecan.org and it signifies me being tobacco free for 2 years. They have these for all different levels so when we get to 3 years, I’ll get us another one!! This will be my reminder and my commitment to you and our family.

I love you very much Jameson… I’m so proud of who you are, I couldn’t have asked for a better little buddy. But, most importantly……………….Thank you, Jameson… Thank you for saving my life, son.

Love,

Dad

I will not say I am quit for forever and I don’t have to. I only have to be quit for TODAY. I will do the same tomorrow and forever will get worked out in the process.

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Quit Date: 12/31/08
HOF: 4/10/09
HOF Speech
2nd Floor 7/19/09
3rd Floor 10/27/09
1 Year 12/31/09
4th Floor 2/4/10
5th Floor 5/15/10
6th Floor 8/23/10
7th Floor 12/1/10

"I will not say I am quit for forever and I don’t have to. I only have to be quit for TODAY. I will do the same tomorrow and forever will get worked out in the process."

TCOPE & The FOQer's Top 10 Reasons for being quit on Christmas......

2010-12-18T06:57:00.001-05:00

TCOPE'S Top 10 Reasons for Being Quit on Christmas

1. Don't have to worry about knocking the spitter over on the carpet 50 times while being sprawled out trying to put together the latest toy for kid

2. Sugar cookies don't have brown stain marks on them

3. Cool gifts and stocking stuffers fit in my stocking now that I don't need to have a 10 can sleeve in there.

4. Is that my Jack and Coke or my spitter?

5. Santa claus can actually drink the cup of milk we put out for him without worrying if the spit and copenhagen were washed out

6. No more lying about having to run out to the store to get more "batteries" on Christmas Eve because I ran out of copenhagen and the stores are closed on Xmas.

7. Our sledding hill in the backyard is not covered with brown spots this year.

8. Don't have to pull the Santa beard to the side every 30 seconds to spit….

9. Going out to select our Christmas tree is not limited to just how long I can go without a dip.

10. No more christmas shopping in the malls and having to find an empty store aisle where I can spit a puddle cause I forgot my spitter.

Merry Christmas you junkies.....

700 days done

2010-12-05T16:04:00.005-05:00

I asked my wife several weeks back if I could go to State College, PA for the KTC meet that was going on. She looked at me a bit crazed and asked "you're driving 10 hours round trip in 2 days to meet a bunch of guys you don't even know their names?". Needless to say I replied "yup".....

That's the thing here about all these people and this wacky internet site. There is truly a brotherhood. It's like when Trapper drove something like 6 hours round trip in AN AFTERNOON to come see me in Missoula, MT when I was out there. The only thing you can say is that there is some type of bond that is shared.

TCOPE & Chewie

Although not an introvert by any means, I am a pretty keep to myself person. I don't have a lot of friends that I "hang out" with and I certainly don't "go out with the boys". I just don't do that. I'd rather bike and spend time with my family. But I told my wife there are really only two sets of people that I call true friends. One is the group of men that I spent time with in the Rangers. They will always be true friends. The other are the men here that I've met through KTC. Wild isn't it?

No college buddies to speak of......
Work friends are non existent......
Just a bunch of wild assassins and junkies.....
Hmmmm.......

Theo, Big Brother Jack, TCOPE

Anyway, at 700 days I feel truly great. My head is where it needs to be regarding nicotine (meaning I know I'm never going back) and at almost 50 years old my body is back in great shape. My family gets my time more and this is what life should be......

To be honest, 700 is badass and that's the bottom line. And as all of us FOQers get ready for 2 years quit I want to continue to thank you all. I will be posting probably forever. I just like the people here. Some of you I've still never met but are friends none the less. You know I got your back. I know you've got mine.
Just like true friends.........

Niwot, TCOPE, JPCrew, Rkymtnman

TCOPE, Trapper

Here's to another 700 days........
TCOPE

2010-11-18T10:51:00.000-05:00

Me and ron3775

2010-11-18T10:31:00.001-05:00

Test mobile

State College Meet 13 November 2010

2010-11-15T15:29:00.003-05:00

Fish

TCOPIS MAXIMUS

Left to Right: Penguin, jjsnake, BBJ, Clampy, btdogboy, Chewie

TCOPE & Neveragain raking in chips at the poker game.

Ron3775 and bhfive

BBJ sampling the juice......
Neveragain

Franpro and Chewie

Penguin, Clampy and btdogboy

Chewie and Rizzo20

UncleBubba and Franpro

Clampy and btdogboy

The Gang

Chow time

The final table

TCOPE on day 631

2010-09-28T05:57:00.003-04:00

TCOPE on day 4

2010-09-28T05:54:00.002-04:00

TCOPE & Trapper in Missoula MT

2010-09-13T06:39:00.002-04:00

TCOPE & Trapper in Missoula MT

Thoughts at 500 days

2010-05-14T09:26:00.006-04:00

On 20 May 2010, I will have been quit 500 days. As I was sitting around I thought I'd write my thoughts down about how I feel at this period in my addiction and quit....

To be honest I feel great... I will admit that from time to time tobacco comes nibbling at my thoughts and I suppose that will always be the case. I guess you never become "un-addicted" but this is so much better than even at 400 days.

During the early part of my quit I used Smokey Mountain pretty extensively. From time to time I still do. I guess it's the enjoyment of something in my mouth and spitting but for whatever reason I still imbide from time to time. However I have explicit rules on its use.
1. Never around family----
2. Don't carry it around outside the house
3. Limit use to my office and in front of the computer and sometimes gardening.

But this usage is almost hilarious cause I know I don't even need it and most of the time I even forget to do it!.
Forget to do it, you say??? Yes, there are times that I "forget" to do it. It's funny shit. Let me give you an example.....

Every morning when I wake up at 4am I turn on my computer and check email, read some blogs/news, and plan my day. That USED to be prime dipping time. Family was still asleep and I'd cram enough copenhagen into my mouth to kill fourteen korean families.

Well some mornings now I wake up and think, hmmm..... i'll have a smokey mountain while I check email. I go in to my office and start checking email. I then start checking out the bike blogs and news.... next thing I know it's 6:30am and I hear my wife up. I go downstairs and make coffee and it hits me: I never put a Smokey dip in......... I totally forgot to.....

That blows my mind.... Remember when we were using? Do you think I'd forgotten to put a dip in then??? Shit when I woke up in the morning I needed my FIX NOW!!!!!!! If you got in my way from the bedroom to the office where I kept the stash I would have knocked your head off with a patented TCOPE elbow slash. Hold that thought a moment cause I just actually wrote a cool rhyme that could be adapted for rapping and land me a record deal:

"Out of my way bitch cause I need my stash...
If you don't move back you'll get an elbow slash...."

Ahem......

Anyway, back to the story. Honestly now at 500 days I can say that I have no craves or desires really anymore. Just some memories perhaps.

In the past 300 days or so I've become more involved with the site as well. Back from the old days I maintained a spreadsheet with over 300 quitters names/quit dates/HOF dates/projected dates to hit milestones out thru 5 years.
I try and send a note to everyone as they hit these milestones. My spreadsheet has conditional formatting so all the milestones show up in yellow and I just open it up in the morning and send out some notes. I'm still the geek.

I also try to post in all the newbie groups and some of the vet groups. It takes some time and if I'm traveling then I can't really do this every day but I try....... I've had to really back off posting in all the vet groups because I just don't have the time.

One thing I do is post everyday in my group. I really feel this group is special. I suppose everyone says that but we've got a lot of really good guys that are smart, mature and committed to the group. I enjoy seeing them post up everyday and to this day they sustain my quit......

On the topic of posting. If there's any newbies out there listening, I'll say that posting is the most important thing in your quit. I'm not the only one to think this obviously but don't forget TCOPE told you so....

On the topic of another thing: Sticking around the site.
As I move past 500 days I also have no plans to leave the site.
I do not need the site anymore for staying quit.
However, I stay here for 3 things that I enjoy and also, I think, help my quit

1. I enjoy my group and these fine men.
2. I enjoy helping out others and seeing guys give up this shit.
3. I enjoy the outside friendships that have developed.

Take a walk down memory lane now with the FOQers. Cue rap song above for serenity.

Remember back when we all hit HOF. At that point there were many (and I was one of them) that said I won't feel good about my quit till ONE YEAR. Well that came and went and to be honest it still didn't feel rock solid to me. I mean I was certainly well quit at one year but there were still some nagging thoughts.

With that said I think I'm declaring my quit officially solid at 500 days. I know in my mind that I won't make a mistake to damage what I've accomplished. I don't think of it, I don't crave it and that is what makes me feel good.

So that's it.... no revelations or anything. Just a good solid quit at 500 days..

TCOPE/Todd

Kneedragger (Chris) and TCOPE meet up in NYC

2010-04-29T09:38:00.002-04:00

Ninja Crew!

2010-01-21T05:50:00.005-05:00

One Year Quitters

2009-12-31T07:17:00.050-05:00

JK17 - Hello all! I posted in May 09 but I guess I am supposed to be here. 1 week quit.
JK17 - Day 8 - nic free today!
JK - 10. Welcome the double the digits.

PbKid - Introduction
I've chewed tobacco for 27 years. I'm about to turn 42. Copenhagen was a quarter when I started. I guess it was baseball, but I was never really all that good a center fielder, anyway. Can't even play anymore, the pathology of my right shoulder might fill an entire semester at med school. Time marches on.

I'm an engineer - work in an office like Dilbert. I have a wife I'm still in love with and two great kids, 8 and 10. The youngest is autistic - his diagnosis brought me to my knees and to the edge of life. Both of my brothers and my father-in-law are alcoholics with about a billion years of sobriety between them. I realized not long ago that none of my friends chew any more - just sort of evolved that way without me noticing. You see, I have every reason to quit and, moreover, to succeed at it.

All behavior has a payoff, a reason behind it. I chewed because it made me feel less anxious. But the habit itself also made me anxious. The Quit has been one of those things I know I gotta do but would rather just ignore. I've been avoiding it for so long now. It nags and gnaws at me. Now my number's up. Events past and present bring my level of angst to new heights. The payoff for quitting has grown to be bigger than the payoff for chewing.

I don't know how to tune an engine, clean gutters, play golf, or ski without a dip in my mouth. Thinking about these and a hundred other similar activities without chew pretty much blows. That's why I'm here. I plan to take it one day at a time and when I get to those days I'll be asking for help. Thanks for the offer.

PbKid - 1 - I want this bad.
PbKid – 2

PBKid
Hola.
Since I can remember, it's always been the same. 1. brush teeth, 2. pack one, 3. turn on the shower & clean fingers off. Today I decided to do something different.
I've also decided to suffer with like-minded people today. Yeah, you guessed it, I'm going to work. I work in an cube farm, Dilbert-style. Nobody there chews. I plan to tell 'em I don't feel well (thanx beaver).
I've also decided to give my word to a bunch of like-minded people I don't know that I will not chew today. Wings are re-entry red hot but I'm not gonna chew today.

PbKid - I have one other matter to report at this time.
I pass a house coming into our neighborhood that sits atop a hill with a very large flag of the United States of America on a really big post. It's the guy that started Sage, if you are familiar with the fly fishing equipment.

Anyway, for the last week or so I've been seeing that flag waving in the breeze on the way home from work and my mind *snaps* the image ---> Ready.

So, it's kinda cool because I think about Ready, KTC, being quit, and freedom pretty much every day coming home now - about 2 minutes after passing the c store I used to frequent.

Keep quit.

QUOTE (edromero @ Jan 20, 2009, 12:48 pm)
QUOTE (quit_aug_27_08 @ Jan 20, 2009, 2:17 pm)
You will move past the crave ND - it's tough and no one is denying it.
ive sed this bfore, and ill say it again because it helps me... i know its tough.
but whenever i think its tough, i think of that hiker who cut off his own arm with a pocketknife when he got trapped under a boulder for 3 days.
what would you endure if your life depended on it?
how tough do we really have it?
10 years from now, with the "tough times" matter to us anymore? probably not.
fuck it. bring on the pain.

PbKid - Bring it.

PbKid - day 3
PbKid - 4 - not today either
PbKid - 5 - It's fun to quit. No chew today.

what's the best thing about being quit?
PbKid - Not worrying about quitting

2jet - Hello to all!
This is my first day on this site and today was day 1 of my quit.
It's been a bitch of a day so far. I've never been so irritable and lightheaded. I feel like I can't keep a thought in my head for more than a few seconds. I know it will get better, but it's been a long day.
I was a Cope man for over 15 years. 4 to 5 cans a week. I would beat myself up all the time for not having the "balls" to quit that shit. Everytime I would try and quit I would come up with some lame excuse for postponing my quit. "it's to stressful at work right now"..... "not until after vacation" etc. etc...
I'm committed this time and will be posting roll tomorrow morning.
I look forward to quitting with the rest of you.
Regards,
Matt (2jet)

2jet - Day 2. This site is great. I never thought I could do it before, but now I have hope.

2jet - Day 3. Fighting with the Nic bitch today, but I'm gonna kick her ass.
2jet - Day 4. Yesterday sucked. Feel better this morning. No nic for me today.
2jet - Day 4. I got edited out for some reason a few posts ago. I'm still here

camojfk day 1
Camojfk - Day 1 ***Welcome Camo--please don't try to fix what's been fixed before you figure out what you broke!! You're doin' GREAT! Welcome aboard!!
Note by TCOPE: If you ever look back at Camo's 1st post it fucked up roll royally! Quitting Time fixed it
camojfk day 2
camojfk #3
camojfk #4 1st weekend down
camojfk - QUIT DIPPING OR GET THE FUCK OUT
camojfk #5 put up or shut up/quitter 4 life

BigDBingo - Ok guys, I'm in. Today is my quit. Killed a can of pouches yesterday, bummed a dip off my brother last night, and woke up this morning determined to kill this habit. I was able to avoid my usual shower dip this morning, and so far havent had a work dip yet today. i have three pieces of super strong gum packed in where the dip would be, feeling the minty burn. I think this quit will be my final quit.

BigDBingo - Day 1. thanks for having me.
BigDBingo - Day 2 - Doin fine so far. Yesterday was tough, but I made it. I am stronger than Skoal.
BigDBingo - Day 3, no worries.

ScubaSteve - Quit Day 2, first day here though.

Hello all. I began my quit Tuesday night on the way home from work. I thought to myself..."why is it that I can tell my wife all my secrets, my passions, my worries, my desires....but you won't tell her this one other piece of your life. I don't know if I'm the only one out there who's done the same, but I have used the junk for 7 years. My wife knew about me doing it a month after we started dating. I told her I would quit and did so for 9 months. Went hunting, started dipping again. I have since been married (almost 2 years). She doesn't know I do this.
What kind of pathetic POS's are we to try to hide something from our spouses? Something so major! Something that will kill us! I guess for me it's cause I know my wife told me (when we were dating) that if I ever started doing it again she would break up with me. Now we're married and I know she won't leave me over it anymore, but it kills me to think of how it will make her feel when she knows I am an addict.
I had a year long stint in law enforcement. I don't feel any better than the crackheads and dopefiends that I busted up. Hell, I even stole cans from my college roomate at A&M. Pathetic.
This is my "declaration of dependence". I've confessed my wrongdoings to a bunch of strangers, and tonight I confess my lies to my wife. I'm definitely doing this for myself. The last time I tried, I did ok for 9 months, but that was because it was instigated by a threat from my girlfriend.
Good people, keep me accountable, and I will do my best to do the same for you. And to the vets, I've read through your HOF speeches, and some of the admin posts, and I want to thank you in advance because this is the support I need.

SWJ - Day #2 - I've never tried to quit before, but am somehow convinced that I can do it on the first try... We shall see.
SWJ - Day #3 No Worries.
SWJ - Day #4.

This was one of my favorite posts by SWJ
SWJ - 16 Feb 2009
Yesterday, I decided to cave.
36 days ago, I decided to stop dipping, for the sake of my wife and two little boys. I used dip tobacco for years, and really, genuinely enjoyed it. However, three weeks ago I decided to stop, for the three most important people in my life.
And I did. Cold turkey. Frankly, it was pretty easy. I found the KTC site and posted every day, I read the posts from dudes who were having a really tough time with their Quit, and I posted a few words of encouragement. I had never tried to quit before, but I was really proud of having gone three weeks without any tobacco.
But yesterday I decided to cave.
My wife and two boys left for a week on vacation. This, my friends, would be prime dipping time - I could put a wad of Grizzly in, sit in front of the TV, and just enjoy it... I literally thought about it for a week. To be honest, I could hardly wait.
They left. I waved to them. And I made two more decisions...
I Will Always Be Stronger Than Any Vice. And I Will Never Cave.
The verbal abuse that I would get in my Quit Forum here on KTC doesn't scare me in the least - If I ever decided to cave, I just wouldn't show up here anymore.
But I would know.
I would know that I was weak. And I Am Not Weak.
I would know that I let my family down. And They Are Everything To Me.
I would know that I lied to my boys. And I Am The Greatest Dad Ever.
I am a husband.
I am a father.
I am a member of KTC April 2009.
And I Am A Quitter.

NKT - Day 1 - no nicotine for me today
NKT - Day 2 - insomnia rocks
NKT - Day 3 - Rooster get your ass back in here. Vets: lighten up a little, some of us might be just hanging on by a thread and it's not cool to fuck with us so early. Fire it up in a couple of weeks, we might have a sense of humor then.
NKT - 11 January 2009----After 12 years with a can-a-day-or-more copenhagen habit, I’m on day 12 of a quit using a very abbreviated nicoderm patch system (about one week on each “step”). I’ve had some serious withdrawls and cravings, but it’s getting better. I’ve run into a bit of a challenge today:
My wife and daughter just left town to visit family…
For six days.
Oh shit.
This is the time I’d usually take the can out of hiding and dip at will. What do I do now? Any suggestions on how to get through this would be much appreciated.
One other thing: would anyone be offended if I participate in the roll call if I stick to the patch program EXACTLY as outlined below?
12/31/08 – 1/9/09 21mg patch for 16 hours
1/10/08 – 1/16/08 14mg patch for 16 hours
1/17/08 – 1/23/08 7mg patch for 16 hours
The reasoning behind the patch program is that I can’t afford to be going through a set of really severe withdrawl symptoms because nobody in my life, aside from my wife, knows I used to chew, or that I’m quitting now. And even my wife doesn’t have any idea how bad my problem was/is. Being completely worthless for a couple of weeks just isn’t an option for me. But then again, going back to the can isn’t an option either. I’ve worked myself into a tough spot here; any advice or insights would be welcome.

11 January as posted by NKT - Thanks for the replies. Even with the patch, it still feels like I have a fuzzy blanket wrapped tightly around my brain, and I needed a little kick in the ass. It hadn’t occurred to me that six days alone could be an opportunity rather than a challenge.

Just took the patch off and tossed the rest in the trash. They served their purpose of breaking the getting-high-on-nicotine-every-couple-of-hours cycle; now it's time to move on.

Edromero: look at all the day 6's. everyone took their last dip ever on new years. excellent! here's to a nicotine free 2009, you bitchy-ass hoes.

Wildcat99 - Day 13 - Dear Skoal, "quien es su papa, biatch"

Our new year's quitters
"This shit fucking sucks. everything i do is drowned and hollowed out by a constant presence of anxiety and depression. And it fucking blows that the cure to all of shit bull shit i'm going through is just a little pinch of tobacco to stick in my lip. And what blows even more is to know I cant have that. fuckin shit man....fuckin shit. fuck! " - Barsky9, failed quitter in the FOQer group April 2009

imaquitter: day 7, need to go buy big thing of gum, it is getting easier
imaquitter: hello ppl, i signed up last night, this is day 7 for me, its been a tough but good week, lookin forward to many days and weeks and months, and years, of being dip free

Bengalsgirl08- Day 5..where is wildcat?

BigHoss44 - Day 5, headache and cloud gone but craving still there
BigHoss44 - Day 6, no dip today...will be back tomorrow!

RoyJester - day 5, first post, the weekend sucked.
Royjester: I don't like wagons either, they Fucking suck, dong.
RoyJester - 6 - Fuck Chewbie Snax
RoyJester - 7 - what a shitty week, can only get better I suppose, look forward to it
Royjester: I hadn't spit in a cup since being a Sophmore in H.S. I have given up coffee, mostly, becuase I always had my morning joe w/ a morning chewbie snak. Now I'm drinking tea, I hate tea but it's better than the craving.
RoyJester - 8 - one fuckin' week down, many many to go.
RoyJester - 9 - nuts

Moe Man is pushing all his chips in. Day 2 first time on here. What a freaking fog yesterday was.

ed-13. not a big deal. got other fish to fry (an' shit).

ron3775 day 1 (I actually quit at 9 p.m. on the 31st. This is the first I was able to log in since. I am feeling pretty good and felt great getting rid of the can!

ron3775 - day 3 and feeling great! I am welcoming the fog and glad the rage hasn't happened yet. I know it can happen at any moment. I am avoiding going into stores right now to help out.

Ron3775 - 4. I was out last night and had a few beers, But I stayed quit.

ron3775 - Day 5 I am back to work and doing fine. No craving for a dip for the ride in. Fog has lifted for now. Thanks to all.

Wildcat:
day #1 is over. sucked major ass but it is done. pretty big for me because i don't think i have ever stopped dipping for 24 hours (very pathetic and embarrassing to even admit). Tomorrow I do it again. What is interesting though is that i think my penis grew by an inch from not chewing today. if i would have known this was going to happen i would have quit years ago.

wildcat99-day 2... sucks like crazy but i will not chew today.

Wildcat99-Day 3... I've got "fog grand central" going on here. Not sure whether I am coming or going. The only thing I do know is that I am not dipping. I will not chew today.

Wildcat Day 3: Hey folks... hope everyone had a good day today. I am foggy as hell and sort of dizzy. Work was hilarious today. Mainly because I just stared at my computer all day. Really didn't accomplish much of anything. Too foggy to be productive, worked for me. See you all at roll call in the morning.

~bom-chica waa waa

Wildcat: Holy shitballs today is tough... went to a movie with my wife, wanted a chew. came home and had a phat ass bowl of spagehtti (and 2 beers), now i want a chew. Came here looking for support as I made a promise this morning to all of you that i will not chew today!! And, I won't--swear!! Gonna have some more silver bullet to take my mind off of my ex-friend (skoal longcut wintergreen).
Grrrrrrrrrr.

Wildcat99- day 4... this sucks. I'm not very nice right now and I hate that.

Wildcat:Day 1-3 suck very bad. I'm on day 4... feels like time is standing still. Everyone on here says it gets better... I've got to believe you, otherwise you wouldn't have stayed quit. So, I keep on keepin on. Realizing that "if it were easy, everyone would do it".
~Word

Wildcat99- Day 5. I'm not 100% sure but I think the fog may be gone (or at least lifted). This site is saving my a$$. My family is great, but you guys are fighting the same fight. Thanks for being there!!

Wildcat: Am I hallucinating or something??? I could have sworn I posted roll today--but, I don't see my name on the list anymore. What the heck? Oh well, bottom line, I'm not chewing today. But, for the record...................... I want to really bad.

Wildcat: And, I just screwed that post up... crap--sorry about that. Well, i guess i posted some kind of roll--even if i did it wrong. I'm tough as nails. Grr.

Wildcat: had a suck ass dream last night and woke up with my dog's rectum about 7 inches from my face. I blew her a kiss. Rectum? Damn near killed um...

Wildcat99-Day 6... still want to dip, but still not going to. quittin, that's how i roll.

Wildcat: Smokey, i wasn't tryin to steal your thunder there... i'm just still an idiot with the whole message board thing. DAMN, i'm tryin.

ob1541:
My names OB. I'm on day 2. I've dipped for 25 years. I've been on day 2 before and it is the same hell I remember. Quiting tobacco is the easist thing I've ever done. I've done it a thousands times. This is my first time using a "support group." Hopefully I won't be as pathetic as those "F's" on Celeb Rehab. Well I've put alot of thought into quiting this time. I've got to get this right. Sorry if this seems like a incoherant ramble but IM IN A F-ING FOG.

ob1541-day 3, don't "f" with me right now!
ob1541-day 6 "present" and accounted for

ndrooster1 - okay day 6 for me and brand new to this board. (hope I am doing this in the right place) - tobacco free since December 29-08 but had to buy a can of bacc off today to get through the triggers..feels like cheating to me but if it helps??! 34 years of being chained to the snuffqueen

ndrooster1 - okay - NO Baccy for me today - starting day 7..gonna face "the lions den" as I will be at a place with lots of triggers. Armed with my water, gum and as a last resort - a tin of BaccOff (yuck!)

Rooster: I am on day 7 and I know exactly what you mean by time standing still......it is some of the weirdest sh*t I have experienced in a long time and it is some of the most frustrating. However, I think today it sped up some - I actually had a hour and a half fly by - but those first 6 days were tough, and it made it near impossible to work in my shop/studio. Can't remember in the past 34 years of chewin that the days went by so slow.....and the nights, I don't know if it is because of all the water I am drinking or if its the body adjustiing but I am lucky to sleep 4 hours straight through before having to get up, pee and get another drink. Then lay there and toss till I finally fall back to sleep -- very weird dreams too. But I too am determined to quit so I anguish through these spells. Had to have a pinch of Baccoff herbal stuff tonite though. That kinda has me spooked. Are you sure it is okay to go that route or is cutting off everything the best way? Were any of you able to wean yourself off the herbal stuff easily or is that gonna be a struggle (psychologically I know - not physically).

ndrooster1--starting day 7 - posted my introduction this morning on whatever page that is.

ndrooster - day 8 - had a dip dream last night, woke up with my mouth all dried out and a headache. WTF? Will not succumb today.

Bike to the Reunion for Cancer Research

2009-08-22T08:05:00.001-04:00

Hello to all you quitters out there.
Some news:

From 9-17 September this year I will be returning to my home town in WV to attend my 30th year high school reunion.

Since my graduation in 1980, I have lost two family members and my high school best friend to cancer. You guys can imagine how many dippers and smokers there are back in dem dere hills of WV.

Not to mention others that have battled and won against this killer including my father who has beat cancer twice but has had his right arm amputated in the face of this killer.

Believe me, some have lost more…….

I wanted to let you all know that in conjunction with my class reunion I'll be heading back “home” albeit via a different mode of transportation........

I will be riding my bicycle 600 miles from Redding, CT back to WV to attend my class reunion and also to raise awareness and support for cancer research

This ride will be in honor of everyone that has been impacted by this horrific disease to include all classmates, friends, family members and victims and survivors.

I hope you'll take a look at my trip itinerary that outlines the ride but more importantly I hope you’ll be able to make a simple donation of $5-$10 bucks to the American Cancer Society in support of cancer research. Believe me, anything is appreciated.

The link to my site is listed here:
Bike to the Reunion for Cancer Research

The direct link to the American Cancer Society site in support of the ride is located on the Bike to the Reunion Tour website above

Thank you all in advance.

TCOPE/Todd

P.S. Take a look at the interactive map of the ride and check back daily for updates, photos, and videos from the road.

P.S.S. Are there any KTC members along the ride route that I could visit??

Trip to Colorado

2009-07-24T14:44:00.003-04:00

Niwot (Dennis), TCOPE (Todd), JPCrew (Jon), Rkymtnman (Jeff)

The Beginning of TCOPE-- 6 JANUARY 2009

2009-04-15T08:06:00.011-04:00

Ladies & Gentlemen.............
Quitters and Cavers.............
I am quit. For 100 days today.

I got here one day at a time. I got here with a hell of a lot of pain and anguish. I got here for me. But most importantly I got here with the help of an interesting group of characters from an internet site called Kill The Can.

There are literally hundreds of posts on KTC talking about the effectiveness of the site and how to use the site. I, for one, didn't think it would work. I'm a pretty keep to myself guy but you know what?? As strange as it sounds, I kept a fucking promise that I couldn't keep to my family or myself. I kept a promise to a bunch of lunatics that I don't even know. And it saved my life.........

The blog you are reading now is, I guess, my HOF speech.

If you were in the FOQers of April 09, you'll probably see yourself somewhere included in my posts. My HOF speech/blog is divided up by week and meant to emphasize some of the things that I feel are important in getting past 100 days.

Many of you in the April group were essential to my quit although I'm sure you didn't know it at the time.
Neither did I until I began to look back over the posts and my diary for the 100 days.

Maybe it was a preposterous rant that one of you made that made me even angrier than I already was in fighting off the nic bitch.

Perhaps it was one of your humorous jabs at someone that made me smirk.

This blog is filled with my WEEKLY RULES FOR QUITTING TOBACCO AND GETTING TO THE HOF.
But more importantly this blog is filled with your funny posts, your serious posts, your ludicrous posts, your ranting posts and more.

Basically, you guys are my HOF speech.

I've approached it like this for a couple of reasons.
1. I want some concise place to go back to IF I EVER EVEN CONTEMPLATE CAVING. Yes, I will continue to use the KTC site but I want to also have a back up. Believe me, reading what you wrote 100 days ago is reassuring!! This is an even deeper commitment from me to you.

2. I wanted to document some bit of history for the guys and gals of this group. There are probably over a million posts (exageration) for our group. This pulls some of the good ones. Hopefully you'll enjoy reading as well. This was YOUR quit as well as MINE. Together it was OURS.

So from a HOF speech it's pretty lame. However, YOU GUYS ARE my Hall of Fame. Listening to your words is the only way that I got here. They helped me to formulate the RULES OF THE WEEK and I am sharing them with you today.

Take a glance at each of my posts/weeks. They lead you through our 100 days and each post is divided up into what I formulated as my guiding principals for my quit and followed by your words and wisdom in the form of posts.

For those of you that want the CLIFF NOTES VERSION:
14 WEEKS OF RULES INCLUDE:
WEEK 1: COMMITTMENT
WEEK 2: CONFUSION
WEEK 3: COMMUNITY
WEEK 4: ACCOUNTABILITY
WEEK 5: FIRST TIMES
WEEK 6: LOVE
WEEK 7: ATTITUDE
WEEK 8: PLAN
WEEK 9: FREEDOM
WEEK 10: ENJOY BUT BEWARE
WEEK 11: COUNT YOUR MONEY
WEEK 12: HELP A BUDDY
WEEK 13: WRITE AND REFLECT
WEEK 14 (HOF): DREAM

Enjoy them all and a nostalgic look back at the first 100 days of the April FOQers.

TCOPE (Todd Copley)

Week One - 6-12 January 2009--- COMMITTMENT

2009-04-14T18:27:00.006-04:00

Getting to Know the Nic Bitch
My 1st Post on 6 January 2009 -
TCOPE - Day 1 ----Signing in today for the first time. Time to quit. Have not had a dip all day today. How do you do this roll call thing? TCOPE

With those feeble words I began my journey to quit. What got me to this point was a 30+ year love affair with Copenhagen tobacco. My latest trip to the dentist yesterday was not pleasant with teeth all screwed up and gums in bad shape. I threw out my cans on the way home. My inlaws had been visiting and were leaving on this day. God, I needed a dip.
My son also celebrated his 4th birthday this week on 3 January. I should have quit on that day but needed one more can to get me through. How pathetic.

My 1st week was filled with anger, stress, triggers, and depression. Every thing I did, I did for the first time without nicotine/tobacco. It was a revelation.

That week I also did a 800 mile road trip as well all alone!!! My god, if I didn't cave during that then I thought maybe I can do this!

Week One for me is about COMMITTMENT. If you can't commit to yourself and the people here then come back at another time. It's going to hurt but this committment will save your life. Oh yeah, one other thing. Start keeping some notes or a diary about your quit. It helps and when it comes time to write your HOF guess what? You'll be ready!

RULE FOR WEEK #1: You better be prepared to COMMIT more deeply than you have ever done in your life. If you're not ready then go die.
POST ONE DAY AND ONLY ONE DAY AT A TIME. FOREVER WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF _______________________________________________________________
Highlights/Posts and thoughts for the week to include your posts:
TCOPE - Day 2 Going to bed. Day 2 worse than day 1 for sure. Lots of triggers (needed to go outside and do some work in the yard). Still I held out. Tobacco free for two days. Good night.
8 Jan
TCOPE - Day 3 - Another quit day for me too. I've got a long drive today which will be a huge trigger but I'll get through.

My Intro that I posted
I'm not so internet savvy and am just learning the workings of this site. Found this intro site and although I quit 10 days ago I never posted anything. Thought I'd rectify that. Here's the details:- 46 years old and been dipping since I was 14- Had about 3 decent quits in my life but none of them lasted:
1. Ranger School 1988 - Forbidden and I went 58 days without. Got back on immediately after
2. Graduate school in London, England - You can't buy Cope in EuropeUsed to go to the U.s. Embassy store and buy it there
3. July 2006 - First self imposed quit. Lasted 20 days or so.This time I will quit. My dentist said I'm all fucked up. I have periodontal disease and will now be treated for that. So far no cancer but it's not confirmed.Dip was with me all my life. Single, married, with children. It is probably the oldest "friend" I have. But no longer.....I'm done and that's the story in a very short version that all you guys can and have repeated around the globe.I'm quit

And much more importantly are those posts that helped me that week:

7 Jan from Loot
One day you’ll get it. It took most of us a long time…many years in fact, before we had our “moment of clarity”. For most of us, it was finding a stupid website of all things. Realizing we were not alone. Accepting the fact that we were addicts and that we needed help because we were not strong enough to do it alone.It astonishes LOOT every single time someone here caves after having been exposed to this site for extended periods of time. You didn’t use the site. You may have understood… but ya just couldn’t fucking buy in to the whole accountability thing huh? People, total fucking strangers, bend over backwards to keep you clean. They offer phone numbers, e-mail addys, etc. and ya still don’t fucking get it.

LOOT is 1300+ days clean. LOOT has been through hell over this shit too. LOOT has been in a position to want to throw it all away when the price seemed to high…many times. The only thing that has pulled LOOT’s ass from certain death is the fact that he’s made a select few people a promise. A promise LOOT could never keep to his wife, his sons, and worse…LOOT’s own self. And LOOT expects the same in return from them…and they goddamned know it too. That’s the whole premise of roll call. 100 days seems like an eternity sitting at 7. But…in reality, 100 days ain’t shit. This is a life sentence we all handed ourselves. Try and blame others if you want to…perpetrate that fraud…but it’s bullshit. LOOT doesn’t know what else to say except some quality time in the Welcome Center is warranted for you newbs. Make sure you understand the level of commitment people are putting into your sorry ass every time they sign roll with you.

It’s time consuming and fucking draining…mentally and emotionally draining to know you’ve wasted your fucking time.LOOT’s about certain most of you fucks have quit reading by now…for those that haven’t…read it a fucking gain until you have your moment of clarity. It’s really pretty fucking simple. We can’t do it for you, but we can help you do it…only if you let us though.*LOOT hangs his fuckin head, shaking that big sumbitch side to side*You fuckin had it too man…you fuckin had it. Right in front of you.

7 Jan
Sweenz - 258 - "Ultimately, we are all dead men. Sadly, we can't chose how but we can chose how we meet that end." My end will come without my face rotting off. How about you?

Posted: Jan 7, 2009, 8:58 am
If I may suggest something to occupy the time and unbridaled rage you may experience today. Have a co-worker or close family member kick you in the balls at 15 minute intervals. That should be just about enough time between blows for you to catch your breath and realize you never want to experience that again. Kind of like quitting. The first 3 or 4 days suck. Then you get to un-fuck what dip has done to your mind and never have to experience day 1 thru 4 again. You have made a fantastic decision and your lives will get better soon. If you need any help, send me a PM and my number is yours. Congrats! This post has been edited by ksweeney3 on Jan 7, 2009, 8:59 am

I truly had never seen a girl that dipped snuff and I come from backwoods WV. Christ, she wasn't bad looking either!! Melanie where did you go????

Loot best sums it up below:
Loot digs chicks with handcuffs
guns are cool too
badges ROCK!
look for a PM

Posted: Jan 9, 2009, 9:29 am
I JUST READ THE FOLLOWING IN SWEENZ' HOF SPEECH. IT WAS SO DAMN GOOD, I JUST HAD TO PASTE IT ELSEWHERE. IT'S ALMOST CHURCHILLIAN. AT LUNCH I'M GONNA GO BUY A CASE OF SPRAYPAINT AND FIND ME SOME HIGHWAY OVERPASSES. PURE GENIUS:

"We have the right to watch our children grow and have earned the right to participate in their lives. We will not be denied. Success can be our only option now. We can never tire, give up, fail, or falter. We are worth more than this addiction and will stop at nothing to beat it."
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Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

QUOTE (ksweeney3 @ Jan 9, 2009, 9:29 am)
QUOTE (TCOPE @ Jan 9, 2009, 11:19 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 9, 2009, 9:13 am)
QUOTE (TCOPE @ Jan 9, 2009, 7:32 am)
Man, I was feeling pretty cocky about 4 days without dip when I read that this misery is still there at 89 days and causes a cave. Christ - I can't believe how strong this shit is. Mike, hang in there.
I was right there as well TCOPE - then came days 12-14 and a funk I can't possibly describe. Get a plan ready because it almost cost me my quit since I had no plan - that issue has been fixed thanks to the awesome support of this board.
Hmmm..... What type of plan did you put together? Right now I've been stocked up on the fake shit but ultimately need to back away from that too.

TCOPE
A plan for when the going gets tough can be something similar to:Crave comes: Insert seeds/gum/candy etc into your grill and tell crave to fuck offCrave persists: come to KTC and read, and look at cancer pics and tell crave to fuck off (If you posted roll already, you can't go back on your word)Crave persists: go into chat and/or call quit brothers and ask for permission to cave (Likely your plan will stop here) Also tell crave to fuck offCrave persists: print out the contract to cave and sign it while telling crave to fuck off.Crave persists: stare down your family and friends and let them know you are a useless piece of shit that is going to make them suffer while telling crave to fuck off. Crave persists still: Slam your nuts in a drawer while telling crave to fuck off.You don't have to do it exactly this way but having multiple steps and layers of defense can help insure you stay quit in a bad situation.

Wildcat 99

Trying to post this from my blackberry... We'll see if it works. I'm showing day 7 that I'm in control of this muther trucker!!! Just got to the airport and have a bit of a wait. The dude I am sitting next to us balls deep in a fat ass chew. I'm balls deep in some Hubba bubba!! Quien es su papa nic bitch???

Tfurrh
Posted: Jan 8, 2009, 9:03 am
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 8, 2009, 8:00 am)
QUOTE (edromero @ Jan 8, 2009, 7:56 am)
is your screen name short for "ricki martin man"?
I do love those boy bands. You caught me.
make you take your clothes off and go dancing in the rain........livin' la vida loca

QUOTE (jpine @ Jan 8, 2009, 7:55 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 8, 2009, 8:54 am)
rkymtnman - 15 - the FUNK SUCKS
if you do this right you only have to do it once. 15 days is awesome. great job

Rooster
Posted: Jan 9, 2009, 5:16 pm
QUOTE
Yeah................................I know I won't dip. It doesn't take away from me wanting it thoughI just wish there was something just as easy to take its place. but there's nothing
My dad once told me if you put wishes in one hand and shit in the other - which will you have more of? Wishes get you no where and shit stinks so a person has to make a real choice as to what you want and what are you actually going to do to attain that goal? Walk the walk. We ALL CRAVE it, but none of us on this board "want it" or else we wouldn't be here -- the tough part is being man (or woman) enough to crave and want freedom from the nic bitch more. Your right - there ain't nothing "out there" to take its place -- the easy part was getting hooked on the shit. I am 34 years of battling these craves - all of my adult life and then some. Together we can kick it. Stay with the the thought - your freedom is worth more than this trial! Rooster

kd4jet
Posted: Jan 10, 2009, 12:55 pm
QUOTE (bhfive @ Jan 10, 2009, 10:42 am)
About how many days until I stop reaching in my pocket for a can that is not there?

I think but i'm not sure it's the day after they kick dirt in your face !
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I am the sum and total of all my life experiences and it's lessons !Quit Date 07/25/2008HOF Date 11/01/2008

Posted: Jan 12, 2009, 11:13 am
QUOTE (ksweeney3 @ Jan 12, 2009, 6:57 am)
QUOTE (NKT @ Jan 12, 2009, 5:06 am)
NKT - Day 1 - no nicotine for me today
Today is the first day of the rest of your life. It will require hard work, determination, focus, blood, sweat, and tears. But when you think about it what good things in life don't?

Sex.

Week Two - 13 - 19 January 2009---CONFUSION

2009-04-13T14:08:00.006-04:00

Week of Confusion
If Week One is about Committment then Week 2 is definitely about Confusion:

Do I REALLY WANT to do this??
Who am I kidding?

No way I can go longer than a week without dip.

Maybe I can??....

I'm confused and in a fog.

As the nicotine began to lift from my body I was dazed and confused.
I saw it in the posts I saw as well from my fellow quitters.

The challenge is to break through the CONFUSION.

This is NOTHING to be confused about and revert back to your new found committment that you had in Week 1 when you decided to quit this nasty habit.

Your CONFUSION will disappear and the light will shine..........

RULE FOR WEEK #2: Battle through the CONFUSION. Your commitment is still valid and strong. Move to Week 3 and prepare for Community

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for this week

I took a look at my car to prepare for a road trip this week. My car is a wreck. Still spit cans hid under the seats. If I could vacuum up all the snuff on the floor mats or seats I would have a roll of Copenhagen. It's sick. Can you believe I did this shit. I would take my wife out on a date in this car. How in the hell could she stand it. I know she hated it.

During this week I returned back from my road trip to West Virginia.

My father had been hospitalized and we thought it was the end. He had been delirious and his large intestine was poisoning him. He began to improve during my visit but there was a lot of stress.

I was using the fake stuff pretty heavily. It helped.

When I returned to CT I had continual visits to the Dentist for work. Also I was focused on looking for a new job since I had been laid off at the end of the year. Try sitting behind a desk all friggin day looking at a computer screen without a dip!!

Basically this is where I was ready to quit quitting. If it weren't for posting roll every day then I'd have been gone. I also started keeping statistics on the members of the April HOF. I had to frigging do something or I'd lose my mind. It kept me glued to the site all day and updating my stupid spreadsheet. Ultimately, I thought it was good and I had positive comments from other members. Those that were'nt posting hated me though. Fuck them. Most of them Caved anyway.

WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON THE SITE THAT WEEK

Do you guys remember during this week there was A LOT OF funny discussion on what we were going to name the group?? Funny shit.

I've included some of those posts here

This was also the week that I was exposed to JPINE!

Here's some of my favorite posts that week

imaquitter
This one was great from imaquitter. Great realization.

Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 5:23 am
today is gonna be a good day. why? you ask, because today is another day that i will not falter in my goal of not using tobacco. it is a day of joy. last nite i was in chat. this guy came in and was thinkin about quittin. i know i havent been here long, but man, i went off on the dude. not cussin him or anything, but tellin him theres a whole different world out there, one without dip. anyway, i went on for about 5 minutes with this guy, it felt great. hopefully he'll be back. to this wonderful world of quit. anyhoo, just wanted to share that, thanksimaquitter
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Chinese proverb: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single stepQuit date 1-1-09
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Jpine

This one made me fucking howl!!
Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 10:22 am
QUOTE (Daniel_J @ Jan 13, 2009, 9:14 am)
but now i know where am at and where i wanna be and ya'll will be there with me until then...

Jpine: you are on your knees in front of me, and you will be there until then
Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 11:50 am
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Redtrain
Sound philosophy from Redtrain

Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 12:07 pm
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Jan 13, 2009, 10:51 am)
QUOTE (BigDBingo @ Jan 13, 2009, 9:50 am)
Ok guys, I'm in. Today is my quit. Killed a can of pouches yesterday, bummed a dip off my brother last night, and woke up this morning determined to kill this habit. I was able to avoid my usual shower dip this morning, and so far havent had a work dip yet today. i have three pieces of super strong gum packed in where the dip would be, feeling the minty burn. I think this quit will be my final quit.BigD

this will be your final quit. welcome to April.

Redtrain: Don't think, thinking gets you in trouble, just quit.
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Bengalgirl

Here's where we contemplated the name Ass Bandits!! I think Rooster almost fucking quit over that one!!!Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 3:25 pm
QUOTE (Remshot @ Jan 13, 2009, 1:19 pm)
QUOTE (mule21 @ Jan 13, 2009, 1:18 pm)
QUOTE (WhoDey @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:13 pm)
QUOTE (Big Brother Jack @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:09 pm)
QUOTE (edromero @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:07 pm)
QUOTE (jpine @ Jan 13, 2009, 1:04 pm)
QUOTE (Armypatt @ Jan 13, 2009, 2:00 pm)
So I had an idea and wanted to see what all of you think.A lot of boards or groups have nick names. Like March, the group before us is playing off the Irish theme.So I thought since we're April and in life there are 2 certainties, death and taxes.And April 15 is Tax day (Which just happens to be my HOF day!!!!!)We could play off that theme.Just a thought.

are you asking for suggestions? i would be more than happy to help

i gotta hear this...let it rock, jp

* BBJ pulls up a chair and is ready for the show .....

ASS BANDITS!!!!

RICK ROLL'S RAIDERShttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
April's Ass Bandits does have a nice ring to it.

this will be twice i have been deemed an ass bandit.. last time for a brief period.
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Jpine

Again Jpine nails it!!!

Posted: Jan 13, 2009, 4:24 pm
QUOTE (imaquitter @ Jan 13, 2009, 3:22 pm)
not everyone is an ass clown, and i dont want to be one

you a butt pirate quitter?

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Rooster

Sorry but I removed my name from the roll call of April butt pirates...thats not who I signed up with. It will remain off any and all roll calls until this shit stops. I can take a joke and name calling in a joking way as well as anybody, and if you knew me, probably better than most of you, but ass bandits, assclowns and butt pirates are too degrading for me. I know this statement is like "taking my ball and going home" but sorry I don't have to be treated like shit by the ones who went before us -- especially when I am working on something positive. If I was a caver I would expect the childish name calling. I thought a lot of positive about this organization in the short time I have ben a member but it seems to be going down a path I do not want to travel. And trust me when I say I am not overly sensitive cuz I sure as hell ain't. ndrooster

Week Three - 20-26 January 2009--- COMMUNITY - I'm a FOQer

2009-04-12T13:26:00.005-04:00

Okay, explain that to my wife. I'm a FOQer.

In Week 3 you will begin to get to know your fellow quitters. You'll get a feel for their personalities and what motivates (or demotivates) them. It's interesting.

Here again we've been thrown into a group of men (and women) from around the country that we don't know.

We don't know their background.

We don't know what they do

We don't even know their names!!

But somehow we begin to bond and form a community. It is sustaining and refreshing.

These are the guys that during this week you need to get their emails and phone numbers.

Expand the internet based community and TALK TO FUCKING SOMEONE!!!!!!

In 100 days these guys will be your friends.

RULE FOR WEEK #3: Become a part of and support your local COMMUNITY.

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts from this week

This week I was back in CT and of course praying for a dip. But everytime I thought about it I went back to the site.

I have to stay busy. I have to be distracted. In order to do that I devised ways to calculate the percentages of the FOQers roll posting habits. I separated our group into different categories based on how frequently they posted. I sent notes out every night on this shit.

If I didn't do this then I'd cave. That's what I told myself.

This was the week that BLF got relegated to May for the cigarette he smoked and the legendary "mushroom stamp" comment was formulated!!!

Here's some posts I enjoyed that week:

blfoster

The mushroom stamp is born!
Posted: Jan 21, 2009, 10:01 pm
minxGroup: MembersPosts: 152Member No.: 5,470Joined: 30-October 08

----- CAN"T BE PART OF THE GROUP ------To : The April Group, The 7 or 8 who sent me personal E-mails last evening & to those assholes who think their prick is bigger than mine :I would like to apologize for failing the group. I really, really feel bad about letting you down. For those of you unaware; I had a cigarette on Saturday night and thought I was safe since I did not dip; ( I apparently did not read all the rules ), however, it seems this counts as a “cave”. So …. I had a really, really shit day Monday & even a worse one Tuesday - ( work & family related ) – I came here last night and asked the question "Am I still good to go since I only smoked a cigarette and did not dip!” ( I guess I thought deep down that perhaps this was not an exception to the rule ) And to my surprise … or to what I thought, this did not make everything peachy kin with my quite. So ….. having 2 REALLY SHITY days back to back and then to find out that my 20 days of No Dip was null and void by having 1 smoke …. Well it really pissed me off and then a couple of assholes in here proceeded to chastise me like a 3 year old and that pushed me over the edge …. I left here with every intention of buying a can and finishing it last evening. Well … I didn’t b/c I still have been off dip for 21 days … I did buy a pack of smokes and had 2 last night and a couple today … So … I lost / failed …. I hate smoking and am actually allergic to it. But it pissed me off that I did not read all the rules and my quite was voided by 1 mistake - - - my fault - - - I should have read all the rules - - - I thought I was getting around the rules & still keeping my promise. I wish all in April 09 luck & I still have not had a dip - - - but - - - have broken the rules and need to get through some shit before I can l get geared back up and kick all nic and hopefully be back hear to post next monthTo those who e-mailed - - - Sincere heart felt thank you & I am so sorry I did not live up to your expectationsTo those assholes who I am pretty sure are gay; that thought it was funny to chastise me last evening ----- if I ever find you alone in ally …. I will rip open your skull & shit down your throat & just before you die … I say hey, yeah, you beat the nic & I didn’t … but … MY DICK IS STILL BIGGER - - - then I will take it out and mushroom stamp your fucking faggot forehead !!!
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This was from Animal/Dean and it showed his struggle. I loved this:

Tobacco: A good habit to break
We took the picture, though we admit it isn’t pretty.Thursday’s Goshen News included a special section titled “Healthy Living.” The cover photo was of someone — in this case “hand model” Michael Wanbaugh, The News’ managing editor — pinching a generous portion of chewing tobacco. However unsightly, the photo highlighted an article we were happy to publish.The article was about Wakarusa resident Dean Weldy, who’s working to break his smokeless tobacco habit. Weldy has gone 180 days or so tobacco-free. The News wishes him continued success.The “Healthy Living” piece also pointed out that help is available for those serious about going tobacco-free. And that help can be found online.Weldy has benefited from the Internet site killthecan.org. Members join a “quit group,” communicate through a bulletin board, and are able to telephone or e-mail each other. Support is important, and that support being available via the Internet makes sense in 2009.What makes more sense, in our view, is never using tobacco products in the first place.Much has been written about the ills of cigarettes, chewing tobacco, etc. Summing it up is easy: This stuff can kill you. Still, young people mindful of medical evidence continue to take up the habit. That’s perplexing and sad.The News applauds the Dean Weldys of the world who’ve decided to make a change. They’ve made the right choice. We also think the right choice can be made a bit earlier.
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chanilla

Something led me to believe there were homosexual tendencies in our group ha ha ha!!
Posted: Jan 26, 2009, 2:16 am
A fucking clit!

Group: MembersPosts: 229Member No.: 4,157Joined: 2-July 08
QUOTE (montywa @ Jan 26, 2009, 12:10 am)
QUOTE (Lance from SD @ Jan 25, 2009, 9:59 pm)
chanilla - day 10 - had a succesful night out with the guys and gals and no tobacco
I seriously doubt the "gals" portion of your roll call chanilla, but im glad you and your buddies on the diving team had fun last night.

oh yeah? Well you can suck my --- wait....
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tfurrh

This showed us still fucking with the April name. Tfurrh came up with this.

Posted: Jan 27, 2009, 2:59 pm
I may look like a King, but I'm really the Duke.Group: MembersPosts: 1,768Member No.: 5,716Joined: 25-November 08
QUOTE (imaquitter @ Jan 27, 2009, 12:56 pm)
HOW ABOUTTHE NIC KILLIN, ROLL BUMPIN, APRIL QUITTERS!!!feel free to adlib this, or add some "fuckin" or "shittin" or whatevers

If we can fit BabyGreggie in there somewhere, I'm game.

Week Four - 27 January - 2 February--- ACCOUNTABILITY

2009-04-11T13:55:00.006-04:00

ACCOUNTABILITY
This is really what did it for me. As responsible, organized and accountable as I am, I could never frigging uphold the promise........ That's the bottom line and where the site comes into play.

As I said before I made a promise to a bunch of lunatics that I had never met and I kept it. The same promise that I had made before to my wife. The same promise that I had made a hundred times to myself. What gives????

Basically it's the people. On a daily basis I had over 50 nutcases looking after me. Telling me their stories. Craving with me. MAKING ME KEEP THAT PROMISE.

And I did...... for me (but also for them)

You've got to think about ACCOUNTABILITY night and day. Believe me you will when all you're thinking about is dipping.

Have your group keep track of who's posting and not. I did this for the FOQers for an extended period of time. I believe it helped and my fellow quitters agreed. The only ones that didn't like it were those that were not COMMITTED (see rule 1). Develop a buddy system. Who looks after who and who will notice if I haven't posted. You need that.

RULE FOR WEEK #4: Make a promise and be ACCOUNTABLE. POST ROLE EVERY FUCKING DAY!!!

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for that week

animal5473

More commen sense pandering from Dean the Animal. Loved this guy
Posted: Jan 29, 2009, 7:55 am
Eat More Beef. No more Dip.Group: MembersPosts: 1,755Member No.: 4,431Joined: 4-August 08
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Jan 28, 2009, 10:10 pm)
Now you fuckers have me confused? I thought thats what you were expected to do if you fucking caved -- man up to the fact you pussed out and caved and not let us hanging. Seems to me thats what I read when others caved before - - pick a month , they all have fuckin cavers in them. Seems all the "old guard" and brothers and sisters of their quit tells them to "man up."Now, your sending mixed messages - to me anyway. I'll play "this game" as you call it -- which I do not - its a life and death situation for me anyway. Just explain what terms we are to use and "play" by. I got my head wrapped around this quit a whole lot more than what you may think, I guess I just ain't a professional bitcher. I'll leave that up to many of you who do it so well. Know your bitchin at me means well but a big back

ND you are right this isn't a game. You don't need to follow anyone on how you treat the members in this group. You find your own way and use that as you. I know who i am and how i treat individuals. I don't have a persona I am who I am in real life. So keep up the good work ND you are doing exactly what you should be doing. Help everyone what ever way fits you. Good job and if you see anyone fall off keep on them. They will come back. It really does work. Stand beside them. Don't stand behind them. Walk beside them all the way. --------------------
WAS chewing for 25yrs. I quit forever now. I've beat drinking I have beat this. Time for the next level of my life. 100 days and counting, 1 day at a time that's all I expect. Pay it forward and no one left behind,

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builderchad

Senseless humor helped a bunch......

Posted: Jan 29, 2009, 8:08 pm
I am my own enemyGroup: MembersPosts: 1,434Member No.: 3,726Joined: 7-May 08

QUOTE (chanilla @ Jan 29, 2009, 4:58 pm)
Fatguysex.comFuck you you fuching cockless cocksucker(s)!

I know you like dogs

I know you fuck dogs

Change this shit, and show a real clit (just not your own) where'd the osama monkey go?

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greg40

Remember Rooster's trip into the wilderness and his almost cave??? Great inspiration but it did draw some more homosexual comparisons!!!

Posted: Feb 1, 2009, 7:28 pm
Suck me, beautiful!!Group: MembersPosts: 331Member No.: 5,844Joined: 6-December 08
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Feb 1, 2009, 4:20 pm)
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 1, 2009, 3:36 pm)
This past Saturday:I initially said I would be gone from vertully any way to post roll yesterday. See, I was out with several men on a winiter snowshoe trek and camp in late 1700s to arly 1800s style. Several years ago, a couple of these guys built a Mandan/ Hidatsa style earth lodge and so every winter we strap on our snowshows , load up out trains (proper word for tobaggon) with blankets, food and some "spirits", flintlock guns - to keep the natives at bay or maybe to add a rabbit to a stew for a 2 night 3 day weekend.This year I had intended to make a snow camp outside the lodge and upon arriving early found another hearty soul doing the same.. About dark 3 others came snowshoing in with word of a possible blizzard with sustained 40 mph winds and 50 -55 mph gusts working their way toward us Friday nite /Sat morning. That along with temps in the teens could be very dangerous so the other guy and myself forgone the better part of valor for wisdom and pulled our bedrolls into the earth lodge. The winds picked up shortly and about 11 pm 3 more souls came snowshoing in. One thing about it ..if it wasn't for the snowshoes you would not have been able to make the 2 mile trek into the lodge and much of the snow was crotch deep or deeper.anyway - we all socialized well into the late evening catching up on old times, sharing some spirits along the way. Saturday, I woke with a crave like none other I have ever had. fortunately only one guy was chewing and he knew my quit so he ninjad his dips. But it didn't stop the crave. About mid morning a fellow came snowshoing in (the father-in - law of one of the guys) and as we sat around the fire , lieing to each other and filling our faces with venison stews, dried venison, venison sausage and other variations of this fine meat -- this "father in law" pulled out a can and I heard the tap tap tap. That just about put me over the edge...knowing I could beg one. My mind was damn near overwhelmed. I was thinking 34 days was going to go to shit in one fell swoop...or pinch. WTF could I do.. it was blowing like crazy out - , but fortunately the snow was crusted so there wasn't a ground blizzard, but the wind made it damn raw to be outside. I did the only thing I could do. I strapped on my snowshoes to my moccasins, braved the 40 mph winds and treked back just about 2 miles back to my vehicle where I had my cell phone and service and texted iuchewie my oath to stay quit. I asked for a post to roll buit didn't see it today so it might not of arrived. After texting my quit. I shut the phone off , put it back in the glove compartment, loaded up my pocket with gum and headed back to camp. By the time I got back , I had no desire to dip and had no more triggers for the rest of the weekend.Would I have caved if I didn't make that personal sacrifice to change the scenery for awhile? I do not know. All I know is that the resolve to force myself to go tell someone I know has been through this shit before helped me get through this time..that day. It really does work if you feel such a trigger to talk /text one of our brothers or sisters of quit. All it took me was some sweat and 4 miles of snowshoeing in about 25 degree weather with 40 mph winds to cure me for the day! If this 52 year one eyed old fat man can do it there is no reason you young pups can't stay quit. No reason at all. I beleive April has as strong of resolve to stay quit as myself. I think that is just the kind of people we are. WORD brothers and sisters, WORD!Now I am off tho watch the super bowl with my brother, slam a few beers, and watch him be a slave to his nic bitch. But not me- not today!

DAMN Rooster - you are one tough old bastard. I love this!!Picturing you in your deer skin loin cloth and buffalo skin jacket with rabbit fur moccasins strapped to a 200 year old pair of snow shoes armed with a traditional musket hiking 4 miles in a blinding snow storm just to tell someone you are still quit - I AM SPEACHLESS. Well done my brother, well done.I've said it before - I'm not so sure that the importance of posting roll / giving your WORD EVERY DAY can be overstated. You my hearty friend just proved it.Where is the excuse to cave now bitches?

Great story, Rooster. Congrats on the strong fucking quit.I bet there were some very manly "Brokeback Mountain" moments in the earth lodge. --------------------
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Smokeyg

Smokes, explains addiction like no one else.

Posted: Jan 30, 2009, 1:04 pm
super whoreGroup: MembersPosts: 2,900Member No.: 307Joined: 10-June 07
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Jan 30, 2009, 8:55 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Jan 30, 2009, 10:31 am)
I have to tell this story.My wife - God bless her - can sometimes get herself in to pretty good situations by talking before thinking. Keep in mind, she is a real smart gal - masters degree, in the medical profession but sometimes I really wonder about her.Last night at dinner, somehow the topic of my quit came up. I was telling her how I have gained 7 pounds since I quit and am working hard to get rid of it. Out of the blue I get something to this effect:"I just don't get it. For years I have been telling you over and over how bad that stuff is for you, giving you all sorts of reasons why you should quit. How bad it is for your health, the impacts it has on our family and your kids - pleading with you to quit for years. One day, you get a call from HYDRO (she actually used his real name...) and just like that, you quit FOR HIM. Why is he so much more important than me, your family, your health our marriage."I was laughing pretty good at this point. After I realized that my laughing wasn't helping the situation, I calmly offered to start back up the can a day habit for her just so I could quit again some time in the future just FOR HER.LMFAO - what is it with women?Moral of the story - I NEVER WANTED TO QUIT. Now that I got sucked in here and have been made accountable to all you fuckers, I got no choice. I have to stay the course now. Oddly enough, I actually like the quit now that I've quit for the right reasons (ME).Quick thanks to HYDRO for pissing my wife off by getting me to quit
Thats a great story. I'm glad you've stuck with it, April wouldn't be the same w/out the king of funk.

Man, I've tried to explain this whole quitting thing to people and it's just something you've got to go through to fully understand. A few of my friends asked me the other day if I was "addicted" to nicotine and when I said "hell yes" they couldn't believe it and just shook their heads. Such a dirty word. They were also extremely surprised to hear that I was part of any support group. If they haven't been there, they can't know what it takes. My wife and I rarely talk about my quit. It caused so much conflict between us in the past, we just let what's working keep on working. She gives me my space and never complains about this site (rarely). Leave it at that.

Week Five - 3 - 9 Feb--- FIRST TIMES

2009-04-10T14:49:00.005-04:00

I was beginning to see a pattern. EVERYTHING was a FIRST for me..........

The first time I had ever played guitar or a concert without a dip in.......
The first time I had ever skiied without a dip.........
The first time I had ever paid the bills without a dip........
The first time I had ever cleaned out the garage without a dip.....

Each FIRST brought about different cravings, feelings and emotions. I handled all of them. Sometimes quietly, sometimes speaking to my wife about them, sometimes talking with my friends on KTC about them. Sometimes a PM or call to JPCrew.

I got through them all but they were hard. I felt better after each.

If you've dipped for over 30 years, EVERYTHING will be a first for you. At least until you complete a year. Be prepared for them. The closest I ever came to caving was on day 103. The weather was nice and I went out to work in the garden for the FIRST time that year. It hit me like a ton of bricks. This was the FIRST time I had ever gardened without dip.

Be prepared and think through your seasons and days.

RULE FOR WEEK # 5: Anticipate FIRSTS and deal with them. Think ahead get a plan (see rule 8)

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for that week
Some posts that week that caught my eye:

11X4
I loved this and still love this. WE DON'T TRY AND QUIT HERE!!!!!1
We don't try here, we quit. We don't make half assed attempts, we draw lines in the sand each day, lines that WILL NOT be crossed. Many quitters here are quit for life but they are biting off that life one day at a time. That is tangible. You can give your word to not use tobacco today, and you can keep that word. - 11 x 4, Nov 4, 2008.
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builderchad
My, my can't we rant when we're in the funk!!!!
Posted: Feb 4, 2009, 11:26 pm
I am my own enemyGroup: MembersPosts: 1,434Member No.: 3,726Joined: 7-May 08
QUOTE (Wildcat99 @ Feb 4, 2009, 12:27 pm)
QUOTE (builderchad @ Feb 4, 2009, 12:53 pm)
If I asked u for permission to stick a dip in your lip, would you give it? How about I don't need your permission. How about I just hop my stinking cancer causing ass right up there, part those fleshly healed lips, squeeze in there and let my venom numb your senses and make those funks go away. Just 1 fucking more of me and it'll all go away. -your old pal nicky the dipFuck you. I see you at the store, I hear you calling me, lifting your skirt, showing some skin. Our time is up. You come near any other sense other than sight and I will take all that I have and ram all that I am down your throat and steal your soul. I love funks, they remind me that I AM IN CONTROL, NOT SOME FUCKED UP PLANT, PROCESSED BY A FUCKED UP COMPANY, PACKAGED IN A FUCKED UP EASY TO CARRY CAN. I am the master now. THE FUNK REMINDS ME OF THIS. -O B MOTHERFUCKIN C

Well put... but, i still reserve the right to be pissed about the funk.

Reserve the right? Dude, you had better get pissed at having the funk. I don't know anyone who likes it, just helps to know that being a funky nicless fuck is better than being a nic funk fuck...I nearly lost it at work today... there were reasons, although not great ones. I had the sales mgr in my office and while typing a response to a pissed off e-mail she asked a question... well, I responded by hold on, I'm having to send this e-mail b/c I am fucking PISSED! She excused herself, laughed about it later...I felt bad, but damn I was pissed...If I ONLY could've gotten here and found Jpuss...
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corn69
Some support and postive reinforcements from the long timers REALLY, REALLY helps. I'm sitting here feeling sorry for myself and this comes from CORN69
Posted: Feb 5, 2009, 11:26 am
I AM QUITGroup: MembersPosts: 1,991Member No.: 1,980Joined: 5-February 08
Just wanted to stop in and say Congradulations. The majority of this group has made it a month or more. Well fuckin done. You never thought you could do it did you. Great Job. Now it is gut check time. You think you have the bitch whupped. YOU DON"T. She will stop by every so often and tap you on the shoulder. She will be wearing that sexy little black thing with her nipples pokin out and whisper sweet somethings in your ear. When this happens, it is best to slowly turn around and knock the bitch to the curb. Bitch, I don't need you anymore. Keep you guard up quitters. The fight is still on. Well done through the 1st stage of your quit. Remember you are an addict. You have been an addict for many years. It will take some time to get over it. I am proud to be associated with this fine group of quitters.
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JpCrew
Remember when ArmyPatt changed his name to JPCrew??? Holy shit the walls came down!!!
Funny as hell
Posted: Feb 9, 2009, 4:17 pm
Apr. '09 HOF CuratorGroup: MembersPosts: 742Member No.: 6,169Joined: 7-January 09
I just wanted to let all of you know that I changed my screen name to JpCrew from Armypatt.Why? Every account that I have online; myspace, AOL, your mom, uses JpCrew. So I wanted to be consistant. Why JpCrew? My name is Jon Patton (Jp) and the Crew part comes from 'if you're my friend, then you're part of the Crew, the Jp Crew'. Get it? It's gay I know.When I firts started here, I couldn't get into the quit groups with out a screen name. So since I was quiting, I was in the fog real bad. So I came up with Army as I couldn't think of anything quick. I didn't realize i would use it for everything. Until 35 days later when i got out of the fog.I guess I was tired of looking at my past and not at where I am now or the future.Yes, I was a badass mother fucker in the Army. So What? Yes, I could kill you in less than 6 seconds. So what? I'm still as patriotic today as I was when I first went in. I still get furious when people move or talk when they play the national anthem during games. But I just didn't want to be that guy who lives in the past all the time. Kinda like my quit. Who cares that I chewed Copenhagen everyday for the past 15 years. I needed a wake up call to stop looking at that and focus on my new life without chew and how much fun I'm going to have and all the support I'm getting from you guys and the firends I'm making here.So I guess I'm asking for your support with this small change. Thanks again for your guys supportJon
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theo3wood
Wow, even the old timers have this shit. I hope mine ends.
Posted: Feb 10, 2009, 10:22 am
Living the dreamGroup: MembersPosts: 979Member No.: 4,411Joined: 31-July 08
A few words on persistence: From the moment I first got my quit on nearly 200 days ago, I completely embraced my addiction, admitting to myself and everybody else that I'm an addict who will never be safe having "just one" dip. And as I've watched some very seasoned quitters cave, I've openly wondered what the hell they were thinking. Many seemed to have convinced themselves that they'd somehow become 'recreational' dippers again---impossible for an addict. I never bought that shit. I KNOW I can't ever dip again. So it was with no small amount of surprise that I woke up in a sweat this morning, recalling the nastiest dip dream I've had so far: in this dream, I actually thought about dipping again, and made a conscious decision to do it. No stress, no triggers; just decided that I'd like to dip again, just for a weekend.Why am I sharing this? Because I know my quit is very, very strong. I think of my quit as a matter of life and death, and I guard it like the pure gold that it is. I'm fully convinced that my next lipper will be the one that kills me dead and leaves my young daughters fatherless. Yet, despite that resolve, and over six months since dipping, the nic bitch still lingers in the corners of my mind. And last night, as I slept, she actually convinced me that it would be okay to break my quit, "just for a weekend".Brothers & sisters, you can never, ever again let your guard down. Nic tried to kill you, and will ALWAYS want your head on a platter. This is a death match, and your opponent doesn't fight fair. You'll never be completely safe. But that's okay, as long as you realize it, be alert, and persistent, and rely on the ACCOUNTABILITY you find here. ...theo

Week Six - 10-16 Feb--- LOVE

2009-04-09T15:22:00.004-04:00

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LOVE - Remember the crazy red "x"s on the site for Valentines Day?

Use this week to focus on the things you LOVE.
In my heart, the love I have for my wife blazes strong.....
But why could she not understand what I was going through??
I hated her for this. I hated her for not understanding what I was experiencing.

Do not let this Hate begin to dominate your thoughts. Focus on your loved ones and share with them in a constructive way what you're going through. They will appreciate it and love you more. Don't hide away from them or even the things you love to do.

I had heard from some people on the site to avoid drinking or "triggers" for the first month or so. Probably sound advice but don't avoid them now. HIT THEM HEAD ON. The things you loved to do were probably triggers. They were for me. Exercise?? I loved it..... but I also loved a big fat dip after a good long run. See what I mean?

RULE FOR WEEK #6: Focus on LOVED ones and the things you LOVE TO DO. Do them nic free

P.S. I love you, hon. Happy Valentines Day

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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for the week.
Some Posts from that week:

The JPCrew/Armypatt dialogue continued!
Lance from SD made an appearance.......
Remember all the red "x"s that showed up this week.

Annonymous Quitter
Hi I am dip. I quit Jan 1st I hope this site gets better... I just found it a few days ago and could really use the help. I am not looking for a verbal bashing session.

This guy didn't last!!! If you don't want a verbal bash then stay the fuck home and chew.
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Caving is not an option, Do something else.
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imaquitter
Our number kept looking good. Better than what I expected.
Posted: Feb 11, 2009, 11:00 pm
the FOQers have 36 quitters posted so far on the day, fuckin A, thats awesome --------------------
Chinese proverb: The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single stepQuit date 1-1-09
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kd4jet
Some of hadn't taken a shit in 5 weeks practically!!! Awwww.... the joys of quitting.

Posted: Feb 12, 2009, 8:40 pm
kd4jetGroup: MembersPosts: 2,281Member No.: 4,388Joined: 29-July 08
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Feb 12, 2009, 4:25 pm)
QUOTE (ScubaSteve @ Feb 12, 2009, 2:19 pm)
QUOTE (chanilla @ Feb 12, 2009, 4:14 pm)
just rocked the shit out of an ap euro history test, i love seeing all these things that we CAN do without tobacco.
Way to go Chilla!! Didn't think you could study without a fat lip, huh? I must say, i never had the opportunity to try that when I was in college, so way to go...Kick that shit to the curb!

Damn, I never had that opportunity in college either. I would find a remote little cubby somewhere in the library so I could chew undisturbed. I have to poop really bad right now and it feels like my first three days of quitting, only in my ass.

To much info !!!
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CopeFiend
Posted: Feb 14, 2009, 9:58 am
Quit is PowerGroup: MembersPosts: 2,092Member No.: 4,978Joined: 30-September 08
QUOTE (chanilla @ Feb 14, 2009, 3:00 am)
And what's with the red X avatars?
Red X's are in a lot of places, e.g. avatars, smilies, post meter.....either the board got hacked, the server lost a disk, or something else. Some avatars seemed to have survived. --------------------
Quit Date 10/07/08, 5:00pm I was a fiend about Copenhagen. My habit hurt my friendships and relationships. And my health."Tobacco is the only consumer product which when used as directed kills its consumer." -- Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland

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Wildcat99
Posted: Feb 13, 2009, 8:18 pm

"Quit looking at me swan"Group: MembersPosts: 724Member No.: 6,088Joined: 1-January 09
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 13, 2009, 4:36 pm)
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Just got back from the store... had to go pic up some valentine candy for my 5 yr old daughter. Made a quick trip to the gas station because i was in a hurry. The dude behind the counter that rang me up had an enormous dip in his mouth. It made me wonder, briefly, how good that friggin dip was tasting. Then I realized that the poor bastard was sucking on cancer and I am just not interested in that poison anymore.So with that in mind, have a great nicotine free weekend you bunch of quittin FOQers. I will eat little candy hearts this weekend .WORD!!Wild-quit99

Ain't it amazing how we notice who is doin a fattie and how we are realize what the shit is doing to others now that we are quitters!Enjoy the little candy hearts but more so enjoy a Valentines quit day with your precious daughter who has a Dad that is now doing everything in his power not to cut his life short for himself and for her!Way to Rock - wildcat99! Word!

Amen brother... we see all sorts of shit now that we are quit!! Especially when you look at it like a ninja

Week Seven - 17-23 Feb--------- ATTITUDE

2009-04-08T15:54:00.003-04:00

Winter was in full force in CT during WEEK 7.
The attributes of Winter were full force in my mind......

My brain was snowy.....
My eyes were foggy.....
My temper like a N'or easter

Things were not fun......Yet I stuck to the site and learned from others. My participation continued and it kept me going.

Despite the "winter" attitude I remained postive.

ATTITUDE IS 100% of the cure. When things are not going your way or people are pissing you off focus on your attitude. No one can make you feel down. Only you have that ability.
So instead of moaning your cave dream or work or anything else turn your attitude around. It's a lot easier going through this with a good attitude!

RULE FOR WEEK #7: Winter will someday change to Spring. Keep a great ATTITUDE. You're the only one that has that ability.
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Some Highlights & Posts from that week:
- Rooster hit 50 days!!

Jpcrew:
I took a mandatory 4% pay cut at work today and then they added another "project" to my work load last week. I feel like going and getting some copenhagen to make the bad man go away. Fuck I hate all of you for not letting me. You can all go fuck yourselves.

SWJ I believe

- I am all wound up like a fucking convict. If JPINE walks into my office I will bend him over and stick it in his ass until he is screaming to make the pain stop and then he will curl over into a fetal position and start sucking his thumb wishing he was in his mommy's lap.
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Scooterscum (quoting 7irons HOF speech I believe)

Congratulations on a month free of tobacco. You should be proud of yourself for you have fought hard and succeeded at doing something few have attempted and even fewer have accomplished. Do not lose focus and do not let your guard down. You cannot coast, but you can draw strength from the success of the first month and allow that confidence to propel you into the second.I should also warn you that many have experienced a boredom phase during the second month. I hit the bored stretch right at 50 days. Something changed in the life of my quit where I just got tired of everything. Tired of reading, tired of posting, tired of thinking, tired of quitting ... I just ran out of steam. I started to really struggle and had a “is this really worth it?” attitude. "Perhaps a short hiatus from this quit - get my mind and my life settled a bit, then I'll start again." Part of me just wanted to give in and go back to the can. Lots of lies were being told within the confines of my mind, but I recognized them as lies. The truth remained that I was better off without tobacco. I KNEW I was - I really did, but my mind kept trying to play tricks on me.You see, during the first 30 days, each day is tough for its own reasons, but it's like we have a real enemy to wage war against. There is "fuel" to keep us fighting and staying motivated is relatively easy.Where are you in your quit? 30, 40, 50 days? This has been hard ... THE hardest thing you've ever done, right? Certainly you are tired, exhausted. You have every right to be. This is hard, demanding work. You get no breaks - you must continue to fight ... every day, morning, noon and night through every trigger, every stress and all the boredom. Everything you used to do, your entire life, involved tobacco. It made boring tasks bearable. It helped perk you up when you were groggy. It helped calm you down when you were stressed. It made the good times more enjoyable.Lies, lies, lies ... and you believed them ... all of them.Now you know better, but you have been conditioned for so long ... 10, 20, 30 years or more. It is going to take time brothers. The last 30, 40 or 50 days seem like a lifetime. I know. I went through it too.In order to get through this boredom phase you need to keep your quit alive. Remember why you quit. Remember what tobacco has taken from you. Your health, your money, time away from your friends and family, your self respect, peace of mind ... the list goes on. Doesn't that piss you off? It should!!!!Use that to keep your quit alive. It is important that you remember the difficulties of quitting. You need to make sure that the pain and heartache you are currently experiencing are never forgotten. Our minds, over time, have a way of softening the hard edges. There is nothing soft or easy about quitting smokeless tobacco. Commit to memory the agony of these first few weeks.That being said, the first month probably felt like three. I remember constantly looking at my watch wondering how time could possibly be going so slow. It is important that you also recognize this principle ... "every step away from tobacco is one step closer to freedom." You need to simply put some distance between yourself and your past associations with snuff. Build dip free memories and by so doing, you will be breaking the strings that tie you to your tobacco past.This is an important one too ... "the only thing tobacco is good for, is keeping you addicted to tobacco!" You need to realize that you simply do not need tobacco. It will not make you a better athlete, business person, sibling or parent. It may seem like it helps you, but all it really will do is elevate your blood pressure, raise your heart rate, make you more prone to anxiety and increase your risk of cancer.Also, there are lots of new quitters joining every day. Remember your first week? They could use some help, an encouraging word, someone to let them know that their experiences are normal and understandable. Lending a hand to a brother or sister in need will help keep your quit at front and center.

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tfurrh

Aren't we all just so articulate in the fog??
Posted: Feb 17, 2009, 6:29 pm
I may look like a King, but I'm really the Duke.Group: MembersPosts: 1,769Member No.: 5,716Joined: 25-November 08
QUOTE (Moe Man @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:27 pm)
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:20 pm)
QUOTE (Moe Man @ Feb 17, 2009, 2:18 pm)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:13 pm)
QUOTE (Moe Man @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:10 pm)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Feb 17, 2009, 4:07 pm)
April, i like the vets coming in here.....Smoke, Monty, Jpine, WhoDey, even BabbyGreggie they all make me laugh, or pissed, but it takes my mind off quitting....kinda the purpose of the site.I cringe everytime someone tells them to go away....what if they do?

Why don't you just go ahead and blow them TFurr.

I was going to say, "Blow Man, why don't you blow me!" But I will refrain from responding to you.

I'd rather eat a furburger than blow a man so I am no help for you Tfurrh. Maybe Monty will blow you

Would you rather eat a shitburger than blow a man?

Now you just aren't making any sense Smoke. You know what they say? Where there is smoke somebody is blowing Monty.

and where there is Moe Man, There is a dick up Monty's ass.

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Moeman

I always liked this quote from Moeman. Speaks of personal responsibility and not making excuses to me.

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Don't tell me about the storm;Tell me you brought the ship home

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Smokeyg

Just plain funny shit. A laugh can really help

Posted: Feb 17, 2009, 12:04 pm
super whoreGroup: MembersPosts: 2,900Member No.: 307Joined: 10-June 07
QUOTE (builderchad @ Feb 17, 2009, 7:59 am)
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Feb 17, 2009, 8:52 am)
QUOTE (builderchad @ Feb 17, 2009, 7:45 am)
Well, funks' not as bad today, probably cause I'm just dead tired. No sleep again, wow this just sucks, but still not as bad as a sore mouf. Don't post any wiseass remarks today smukes, I'm just too tired to pole vault your ass. As for 65 congrats on 3rd floor and sweenz is right behind! OBC (still hate that ballscity name stealing poser) out.

I love you.

You know me all too well. You knew something to bitch about would make me feel better. Too bad jpuss or ready wasn't around. I guess montys been trying to be an instigator but all I just can't get excited over that. I wish ed would bring back that damn phone call about brent buying a blow-up doll

Try to find that blow-up doll post from Ed.

Week Eight - 24 Feb - 2 March--- PLAN

2009-04-07T16:17:00.003-04:00

ALONE......
All alone during Week 8
During the day while I worked it was always a struggle to stay away from the dip. In the evening it was a different story as I had my family to spend time with and remain distracted.

This week was different. My wife and son were going back to Colorado to visit family and I would be all alone during the evening. Probably eating bad and having a couple of drinks.

A perfect recipe for caving........

And it was tough. This week let me put into execution what I had heard a hundred times before: HAVE A PLAN!!!! Dean/Animal used to repeat this over and over

Sometimes I felt like I was bored out of my skull. Ultimately, I came up with other distractions that took my mind off the dip. It worked and by the end of the week I welcomed my family back still quit..........

RULE FOR WEEK #8: HAVE A PLAN for the times you'll be alone and/or the times you'll be in a situation that may be a trigger. Carry around your buddy's phone numbers and emails. Make calls and don't ever think about caving..
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Highlights/Post and thoughts from that week

Big Brother Jack - QUIT + 1 ...

"The man who is aware of himself is henceforward independent; and he is never bored, and life is only too short, and he is steeped through and through with a profound yet temperate happiness. " Richard M. Nixon --------------------

QUIT to LIVE - LIVE to QUIT "
Just because we cannot see clearly the end of the road, that is no reason for not setting out on the essential journey. On the contrary, great change dominates the world, and unless we move with change we will become its victims ."-Robert F.Kennedy
"Never quit. It is the easiest cop-out in the world. Set a goal and don't quit until you attain it. When you do attain it, set another goal, and don't quit until you reach it. Never quit !" Bear Bryant...
Never QUIT the "QUIT" Gents and Ladies !! The HOF is your first attainable Goal , after the HOF set a higher Goal till you attain again ...repeat indefinatley .......Big Brother Jack.... QUIT + 1 ....

Highlights and Posts from that week.
- TCOPE hits fucking 50 days!!!
- Southersteeler and Trapper join the group
- Censorship on the KTC site??? It was considered????

ndrooster1
Posted: Feb 26, 2009, 3:50 pm
RoosterGroup: MembersPosts: 792Member No.: 6,112Joined: 3-January 09

what is the new rule? The link is broken, maybe they are rethinking things[

Announcement for all Members:Please read

im not for OR against this new rule because i understand the purpose behind it - we don't want new quitters (with delicate egos) to be run off the site and go back to dipping.on theother hand, if a quitter gets banned from the site based on this rule, aren't they just as likely to revert to tobacco use as the one who left with a sore (insert another non-offensive word for female genitalia here)?damned if you do and damned if you dont i guess.

Moe Man - the link is not broken - you just have to relog in to get to it.I will play by whatever riules are set up to make this work.
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SWJ
Talk of cave dreams haunted the posts. I had not had one but then again I never remember my dreams.
Posted: Feb 24, 2009, 11:01 am
F - M - F - M - FGroup: MembersPosts: 267Member No.: 6,234Joined: 13-January 09
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Feb 24, 2009, 7:14 am)
Anyone else being haunted by CAVE dreams? Holy shit the past 2 nights, I have had dreams that I caved. Just woke up from a nap and had a third cave dream. They always go the same way. In my dream - they are very short - I am walking down a dirt road and am tired from something. I am smoking a cigarette every time - never any dip. I get about 2/3 of the way through the cig and absolutely PANIC that I have caved. I always think that I automatically smoked the cig "forgetting" that I quit nic, gave my word and without even thinking, had lit up the smoke. I wake up all sweaty and depressed. Only lasts a few minutes but man does it ever suck.I've been sleeping like shit despite working out like a mad man. I also made a decision to leave the seeds at home and break that habit/cycle while overseas so nothing but an occasional piece of gum.Anyone else having these dreams?

I haven't had any dreams like this yet.And I'm not qualified to surmise what they might mean.They might mean you have a tumor.But they might also mean that you're just a regular dude kicking ass on the 62nd Day. This post has been edited by SWJ on Feb 24, 2009, 11:02 am
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Tfurrh
This scared the hell out of me. Caved twice. Could that happen to me???
No way could I ever come back to the site. Kudos to Tfurrh for coming back and making it.
Posted: Feb 23, 2009, 7:15 pm
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Feb 23, 2009, 1:09 pm)
QUOTE (SWJ @ Feb 23, 2009, 1:51 pm)
QUOTE (Tfurrh screwed the pooch)

TFurrh - 63 - today would be my 100, I caved at 9, then again at 28.

Way to not suck (three times in a row), Tfurrh.Seriously, every day from here on out is a milestone, bro.

Yeah...I know I joke around on here a bunch, but I feel great. I went out last weekend it was my first time in a bar since I quit. I got shit faced. I almost caved. actually I was going to cave, but my friend stopped me from lighting up a cigarette. Anyway, I went out again this wkd to Shreveport, LA....Mardi Gras. . I had a blast, but I hardly drank, and the group I went with all smoked like a log. But I didn't even flinch. Point is, I couldn't have made it without ya'll holding me accountable. On my first attempt, I made it nine days without this site, and with no support. With next cave, I had NO idea that my it would bring out such a reaction on this site. I went through a hardcore bitching. It made me value my word though, that's something I had never done before. In a small way, I feel like I have manned up, and once again....thanks to all.
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Moe Man
Lots of people took heat from the vets. I took what I needed like Moeman and Mike1228 and listened and learned.
Posted: Feb 26, 2009, 5:19 pm
Motorboatin Son of a Bitch, You sailor You.Group: MembersPosts: 208Member No.: 6,076Joined: 31-December 08
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 26, 2009, 3:57 pm)
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QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Feb 26, 2009, 2:41 pm)
T dunno.. the "old" way grew on me after a while....desensitized my sorry ass to the bullshit written here..finally got it how it helped keep me from thinking about my craves, helped our group gel as a group..look how we defended our fellow quitters at times of "assumed attacks". Hell I even got to like some of the old farts that were laying the shit on pretty thick. I took what I needed from the postings and left the rest. Now that ain't saying shit written here won't get me riled.. I just think a bout it before I post back right away. Less shootin from the hip so to speak.the only drawback I had about the extreme posts is that the work "fuck" crept back into my vocabulary on a regular basis. that isn't so good according to my bride. Like I said , I'll work with whatever works in this site to help keep me off the shit. Be it Extreme posts or everyone singing kumbyya (well maybe not so much the later...) my concern is the new ruling will make everyone just start posting roll and thats it because they will be gun shy if what they want to say is too extreme. that would really fuck this site up.I'd like some of that stale jerky from your mom and pop store now Smokeyg..oh and how about some of those expired Poptarts.

I agree, I am one of those people who had to live almost 24hrs a day on this site the first month. I knew as long as I was on this site I would not cave, so I was almost afraid to log off. All the drama really helped keep it interseting and kept me tuned in. I really think without all the drama I would have quit being involved and probably would have caved. That being said I also agree with you on the language Rooster. I am catching myself saying words, that I haven't used since high school. Now I have to go search for a support site to help with the cussing.
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Week Nine - 3-9 March-- FREEDOM???

2009-04-06T16:54:00.005-04:00

Freedom is something that I cherish. It's something that I pledged to die for while in the military. Looking back on my addiction now I can't even begin to realize just how imprisoned I was. To someone touting freedom every day of my life, I was a junkie enslavened to this habit.

After 50 days and into Week 9, I began to appreciate this new freedom. I still had to figure out what the hell to do with it though! As the old saying goes, Freedom ain't free, it surely took on new meaning to me. I was free to kiss my wife without having to spit out a fattie first. I was free to drop what I was doing on the spur of the moment to play with my son without having to worry about spitting or slobbering on him when I bent over to pick him up.

Freedom from dip and tobacco is truly liberating.......

Use your FREEDOM. Learn something new..... Get back in shape..... Read a book.... Learn to play an instrument or a new language.

RULE FOR WEEK #9: Continue the Fight for your FREEDOM and use it to grow. Take what used to be "dip time" and do SOMETHING ELSE!!
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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for that week
"Tobacco is the only consumer product which when used as directed kills its consumer." -- Dr. Gro Harlem Brundtland

- Wildcat admits he likes Coors Light!!
- Remember the March roll call ended up in April 09??
The appearance of the Ninja raised it's ugly head:

- Seemed everyone was having the halfway to HOF craves!!! The vets respond in kind.
This dominated a lot of talk this week. Some GREAT POSTS deserve notice:

Chanilla having trouble like the rest of us. Sound advice from Hydro
QUOTE (chanilla @ Mar 2, 2009, 2:51 pm)
has anyone else been having huge ass cravings day after day? I've had a lovely little stretch of like 4 days, with at least one intense crave that tries to defy logic. The thing that keeps me quit is this site and the promises I have made to myself, but this shit is getting crazy. Anyone else having these daily? I want them to get the fuck outa my head!

Hydro

OK Gang........ya'll are enjoying the day 50-70 I dontgiveashits and this quitting stuff fucking sucks.The good news is that IT DOES PASS. Most everyone in March went through the very same shit.....some of us worse than others.......but....ALL of us pulled through. You guys are gonna get through this. This funk is nothing more than mental and everyone of you knows how to beat that down. You're using this site.....that's the first step. Send some text messages back & forth. Pick up the phone and actually use the voice feature...yeah...you can do that on a a cell phone ! Call one of the numbers you have programed in for just this situation. Just a couple days....it passes and then you feel even better than before it started.Come on over to March and bitch at us !! Whatever you do....don't put that shit in your mouth. Remember what our friend Ready says.................caving is not an option so go fuck a duck. Wait.....or was it do something else.....Let us know if we can help......

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Amazing words from chewie.

I can unequivocally tell you that IT DOES GET BETTER! I can't tell you exactly when, but I can tell you that it does.
If you're like I was, you're at the point where you KNOW you're done, but you're just sick of dealing with it.... You're sick of quitting, you're sick of the site, sick of posting roll, sick of fake dip, sick of seeds, sick of quitting, etc. Not that you're thinking of caving, but you're just SICK AND FUCKING TIRED of dealing with dip. I've got good news and bad news. I was exactly right there. That's it... it's both the good news and the bad.
It's good cause if you're like me and you're experiencing all of those things, then you'll ALSO be like me and get away from all of those feelings. For me it wasn't a single defining moment where I stopped thinking of dip in the "I'm quitting" terms and moved over to a "I've already quit" mindframe. That's not to say that I don't struggle and have a bad day now and again cause I absolutely do, but my bad days now are pretty few and far between and are getting less and less intense and i get further into my quit.
It's bad cause again, if you're like me, dip will always be a part of your life. Not an active part, but it's there - in the back of your mind. The nic bitch is always there and will continue to be there. I've been thinking about just this point quite a bit lately. I've been trying to reconcile the fact that I'll always be an addict. If you look at it in those terms, it can be pretty overwhelming... so I don't.
Here's how I deal with craves, bad days, bad thoughts, etc. these days when it pertains to dip.
I tell myself that if the WORST i'm dealing with is a crave every couple of weeks for a couple of days -- that's a hell of a lot better than dealing with cancer.
I tell myself that if dealing with bit of nic rage every now and again is better than leaving my wife and son alone without dad and hubby.
I tell myself that I AM IN CONTROL of my own destiny at this point -- we've beaten our addiction. We CHOOSE whether or not to have a dip. We CHOOSE whether or not to go back to the can, and we CHOOSE the way we deal with our ongoing battles. In my eyes that incredible power
If you're looking for advice here's the best I can do... continue to do what you've been doing.
Use the site.
Talk to your brothers.
Remember why you're here in the first place.
Don't feel that just cause someone else is doing well you can't post about a struggle.
Remember how far you've come.
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Posted: Mar 6, 2009, 9:21 am
By BhFive:
This haunts me to this day.
For the past year and a half I have been slowly losing my Mother to lung cancer. I watched her take her o2 off and drag herself to the porch sit under the " No Smoking... Oxygen in use" sign while hacking up all sorts of things. I was taking a lot of heat from Mom, Wife, kids and siblings to quit my 2 can of Cope a day habit.I had attempted to quit numerous times and had 2 6 month runs that ended with one wont hurt but learned not only can it hurt it can kill. I knew I did not have the strength to quit while Mom was dying but made a commitment to quit after she passed.I lost the most amazing Mother on 12/30/08 and vowed to myself that after we had buried her on 1/3/09 I would pick my date as 1/5/09 to quit. I was goofing around searching for advice when I found the site! I am so glad I did. I can feel it inside already that this quit will be different. I will struggle at times but have an awesome support group that will help make me stay qiut!

Week Ten - 10-16 March--- ENJOY BUT BEWARE!

2009-04-05T17:29:00.009-04:00

ENJOY BUT BEWARE
I actually started putting my four year old son to bed on WEEK 10 rather than thinking about sneaking off to my office for a last minute/pre-bed dip. Can you imagine I've been forsaking the opportunity to read him a story because I had to fucking dip???

Or worse yet going in to his room and reading a story while I spit in a cup and telling him it was "daddy's juice"???

I'm sick of myself when I think back on this. To be honest this was the first week where I actually began to ENJOY myself.

Yeah, it still hurt but I really fucking enjoyed having the ability to not dip or worry about it anymore.

I got back into doing some exercise this week. I normally do this but had been feeling like shit (wonder why and thank you very much for nic bitch). I enjoyed it.

I did feel better. My teeth and mouth felt LOTS better. I enjoyed being healthy again.

I was still searching for a job but felt good about spending time with my family.

Maybe I can do this. Still had my doubts though. But it was'nt going to stop me.

I believe it was this week that I actually connected to some of the boys from Colorado. That's where I'm from and it was good to get some personal stories from them. Keep enjoying and focusing on your community.

Begin to ENJOY your liberation from addiction. But beware because the nic bitch can come down hard.

RULE FOR WEEK #10: ENJOY yourself, your family, your health and your place in life but beware and keep your guard up. You are hopefully doing this for noone but YOU so ENJOY IT!!

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Highlights/Post and thoughts for that week:

Tfurrh

We were always checking in on each other. We lost Chanilla this week to a Cave I believe
Posted: Mar 10, 2009, 3:27 pm
Chanilla needs help. Call him. pm me his #!!!

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Imaquitter

Remember I said to ENJOY BUT BEWARE
ted: Mar 10, 2009, 3:07 pm
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Mar 10, 2009, 12:20 pm)
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QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 10, 2009, 11:23 am)
QUOTE (chanilla @ Mar 10, 2009, 11:21 am)
chanilla - 54 - My fire is out. I can't imagine if I had a game today how I wouldn't dip. I want to dip. I want to be inspired but I can't light it up again.

I know how you feel dude.....I'll be in chat for a bit if you wanna come in.

Ahhh the funk returns. You have to power through that shit my friend. I have had it several times. I have never found an easy answer but IT DOES GO AWAY. Hitting the gym was about the only thing that made me feel better (besides beating off..) but that was temporary. You have come WAY too far and have accomplished a TON. I know it is hard to be proud of yourself in times like this but rest assured, April is most certainly proud of you and since you have already posted roll today, caving is off the table. Just concentrate on getting through the next hour. After that, do it again. Stick close to here - you'll need it and we are here to help.

Rky is right Nilla..it is the funk. It hits each of us hard and at the damndest times..out of the blue. Remember - all you have is your word to yourself and to others ..whats your word worth? I was there (funk) for about a week last week or so..didn't want to post roll, had no desire to continue with this program --yet I knew I wasn't going to allow myself to cave cuz I have come too far but man I just wasn't hittin on all cylinders to make this work.. Several April Foqers helped me get through the funk as well as numerous vets and folks from other rolls. together we can help you get through this funk. that is what it is - funk..keep that in mind. Your old self and confident self will return. Just use the opportunities on this board. you can get through today -- you gotta - you gave word today already -- damn - Ha! Screwed yourself into a corner today didn't you!? Pm me if you need -- I ain't in chat but others are..use the tools Nilla..you can do it.

you want to dip? what the hell man? its like saying you want to die? the fire should be not to support some asshole at UST who dont give a fuck about nothin cept his bottom line. fuck those assholes, i aint giving them no more fucking money to kill me. Fire? Go look at ODT's operation pics. that would be enough to keep any fucking fire going. c'mon man. grow a fucking pair. otherwise, stop wasting our fucking time

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Big Brother Jack ~ Quit + 1 ... "All endeavor calls for the ability to tramp the last mile, shape the last plan, endure the last hours toil. The fight to the finish spirit is the one... characteristic we must posses if we are to face the future as finishers ." Henry David Thoreau

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WAS chewing for 25yrs. I quit forever now. I've beat drinking I have beat this. Time for the next level of my life. 100 days and counting, 1 day at a time that's all I expect. Pay it forward and no one left behind, PERIOD.

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QUOTE (Wildcat99 @ Mar 12, 2009, 5:29 pm)
QUOTE (Smokeyg @ Mar 12, 2009, 11:15 am)
QUOTE (imaquitter @ Mar 12, 2009, 8:23 am)
QUOTE (SWJ @ Mar 12, 2009, 10:08 am)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 12, 2009, 9:51am)

Hey guys. BHFIVE is in the June group now. He's having a tough time. Lets show him some support. He says he's really struggling.

PM Sent. Personal Contact Info Shared. Encouragement Laid Down.April 09 Out.

struggling? struggling? we're all struggling. but we manage. did he get any ass chewing? i didnt see any. what the fuck? so if a person caves, we say its ok and pat 'em on the back? i think not. what the fuck? WHAT THE FUCK? i came into this fight prepared. i had my gum and seeds. and when those were not enough, i got some smc. but i did not falter in my ever going quest to be quit. it is good that he's back in june, but FUCK!!! sombitch shoulda just slammed his nuts in a drawer or something. ok, im done

A pat on the back is the biggest disservice you can do a caver and yourself. "It's OK buddy; you just keep on trying...." I see a quitter's cave as an opportunity to build my own accountability. Hand out some shit and you'll think twice before caving yourself. Avoid the wrath at all costs - just make sure the wrath is waiting on the wing. I couldn't live my hypocrisy if I ever put that shit in my system again. Fuck cancer. It would destroy my self-respect.

Welcome back smoke-stack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bout time ur punk ass came back in with your ma and pa beef jerky.

you're absolutely right smokey the poles, if a person bitches about something then does the exact opposite, then he is a fucking hypocrite. ive made this promise to myself everyday for the last 70+ days, ive stuck to my guns so far. and another thing, i agree. seeing someone who happens to falter on their journey, only strengthens my resolve. i hope bee hive makes it this time. fool me once..... hopefully never a hypocrite

Week Eleven - 17-23 March---- COUNT YOUR MONEY

2009-04-04T19:05:00.006-04:00

COUNT YOUR MONEY

That's right. Start to add it up. By WEEK 11 you're getting close to 3/4s the way to HOF.
Call it 75 days. For me that meant around $375 bucks or more base on a can a day at 5bucks a shot.

Now count that money and grab your friends or spouse and go fucking blow it on a night out, a romantic dinner, a weekend trip, or something that you can share. Let your friends/spouse know what's paying for it.

Is this fucking amazing! Every 75 days you could in reality have a hell of a party rather a bunch of empty tins rolling around the back of the pick up.

RULE FOR WEEK #11 - COUNT YOUR MONEY and spend it on friends and family (at least the first time!).
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Highlights/Posts and other thoughts
- Smokey was back full force in the April group
- Chanilla was still lost along with a couple of others

Royjester
Posted: Mar 16, 2009, 3:59 pm
Are you gonna pull those pistols or whistle Dixie?Group: MembersPosts: 616Member No.: 6,103Joined: 2-January 09
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Mar 16, 2009, 1:57 pm)
QUOTE (JpCrew @ Mar 16, 2009, 1:52 pm)
Smokeyg - This is my eighth grade gang name. I was a founding father of Tyee's Original Gangsters. We would sell painted rocks to unsuspecting neighborhood seniors and dominate Street Fighter II down at the arcade. Check yo'self.

Any one else getting the McLovin visual from this??LOL

It's THUGG life yo!
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Quit to win
The funk is still very evident even this late in the game
bizzatchGroup: MembersPosts: 876Member No.: 5,024Joined: 2-October 08
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 16, 2009, 12:00 pm)

Any of yall hitting the 70's funk?

Power through brothers. ~ 70 -- That was my ABSOLUTE worst time, worse than the beginning. Now i have passed 150 on the way to 200. Getting through those suck-ass days is what makes the quit grow stronger!!
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Smokey G to the rescue again
Posted: Mar 16, 2009, 2:02 pm
super whoreGroup: MembersPosts: 2,903Member No.: 307Joined: 10-June 07
QUOTE (NKT @ Mar 16, 2009, 9:44 am)

A few of our quitters have me a bit worried:Chanilla - last activity 3/15 at 2:46PM, but I didn't see his name on rollcall... I know TFurrh tried calling; keep it up until we get him back.Bengalsgirl08 - last activity on 3/10 (6 days!)Squeaky - last activity on 3/11 (5 days!)If anyone has numbers for Bengalsgirl or Squeaky, now might be a good time to check in.

Chanilla PM'd me on the evening of 3/13. Here is our correspondence - take the time to reach out:

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Smokey, hey. I don't really even know why in sending this to you personally but lately I have had a nice bit of funk. I feel like I have been on the edge of being quit and caving, walking the thin line. The only thing keeping me in the good side is -- you guessed it. Ktc. Do you think that's normal? I've jut felt so fucking close to losing it. I'm a completely different person in the day, on the verge of caving, and a different person at night, being so grateful that I made that through. But I cannot recognize this when I am having a massive crave. Anyway, Hope all is well with you.Chanilla

Hey Chanilla. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying. When I took the past two weeks or so off from the site, I definitely thought more about chewing and how great just one would be. I stepped away because I'm a little obsessive, but also because I thought I could make it fine without this site. I say it's not worth finding out. The stakes are too high. But, I also realize that there is much more than KTC keeping me clean. I am keeping me clean. I am the one not buying chew when I stop to get gas. I am the person who has developed a large toolbox of alternatives when I feel the urge to chew. KTC has provided me a sounding board, support and huge accountability, but when it comes down to it, I am mostly accountable to myself. Every time I promise my August brothers that I will not chew today, I am making that promise to myself. I also had the thought when I was away that in a perfect world people wouldn't even need this website. If you make the decision to take control of your life, that should be enough. But, the vast majority of people don't know how to support themselves. We're convinced that we're not worth it. We feel we need something more important than ourselves to watch over us. Well, KTC provides a forum to overcome those mental blocks. Eventually, I will reach a point where I have internalized the strength that this site provides me, but I'm not there yet. When I reach that point, I hope to stay around and continue helping those newcomers. Anyways, sorry for rambling. I do that more for myself than anything. Remember, YOU are doing this. There is no shame in feeling like you're living on the edge. The fact that you are still making positive decisions is a testiment to your strength. Keep the quit. Dave
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Scuba Steve making me smile
Posted: Mar 16, 2009, 12:12 pm

QUOTE (RoyJester @ Mar 16, 2009, 11:10 am)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 16, 2009, 10:00 am)
Any of yall hitting the 70's funk?I tried to call Chan......no answer.

Is that what this shit is called. I've been having go-rounds with the "don'tgiveashits" and even some morning jonesin' for a fucking nic fix. Just gotta get through the A.M. and things seem to
smooth out. Have you tried texting Chan?

I'm having the "early-60s-lovin-my-quit" phase
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Week Twelve - 24 - 30 March--- HELP A BUDDY

2009-04-03T19:15:00.007-04:00

HELP A BUDDY......
By this time during WEEK 12 you should be feeling pretty good about your quit. Yes, there are still funk filled days and cravings to deal with (see Rule on Firsts). However, you're probably dealing with these pretty good.

Now go HELP someone else. There will be new groups that have started. Start posting roll in those groups. Give you number or email to a newbie. Raise some hell in their group if you feel like it.

Bottom line is to think about all the vets that helped you through your quit. Now go do the same for someone else.

RULE FOR WEEK #12: HELP A BUDDY through his quit. It will also help yours!!
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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for that week
- Big Lebowski week in the April group. Christ I saw more movie quotes then I care to think about.

Did I really say that? Must have the funk
TCOPE – Day 76 – Nicotine cravings gone but what I really need are some lesbian dopeheads on mopeds
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Tfurrh Gearing up for HOF on 1 April and joking around
Posted: Mar 24, 2009, 9:38 am
I may look like a King, but I'm really the Duke.Group: MembersPosts: 1,780Member No.: 5,716Joined: 25-November 08
QUOTE (animal5473 @ Mar 24, 2009, 7:37 am)
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Mar 24, 2009, 9:35 am)
QUOTE (RoyJester @ Mar 24, 2009, 7:27 am)
QUOTE (SWJ @ Mar 24, 2009, 7:24 am)
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 24, 2009)

I hit 100 on April 1st.....wouldn't it be funny if I was like, "Oh no, I caved!" then I was like "April fools, muthas!"

HA HA HA HA HA! No.

you'd get kicked in the nuts...

....and I have the frequent flyer miles to do it in person.

I am truly sorry but that would be the most stupidest joke in the world and would disrespect us and we wouldn't appreciate it.

I know...I'd never do it.......but I may have something else up my sleeve....bwahahahahahah

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Posted: Mar 25, 2009, 2:23 pm
bimboGroup: MembersPosts: 316Member No.: 6,135Joined: 5-January 09
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 25, 2009, 12:14 pm)

I like that Avatar, Hoss.

You're entering a world of pain, son. We know that this is your homework. We know that you stole a car.
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I think Jpine would qualify as douche fluid because the bag actually serves a prupose but the fluid is totally worthless once it has run down the legs to the floor and settled into the cracks in the tile floor. Lets just call jpine "Crack Juice"
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Posted: Mar 25, 2009, 10:48 am
No.: 6,249Joined: 14-January 09
QUOTE (tfurrh @ Mar 25, 2009, 9:46 am)
QUOTE (NKT @ Mar 25, 2009, 8:46 am)
QUOTE (jpine @ Mar 25, 2009, 6:42 am)
QUOTE (ndrooster1 @ Mar 25, 2009, 9:39 am)

(Helps to chew the cheep stuff towards the beginning of my quit --

when did you quit chewing, it seems you have the idea you can chew the cheap stuff and be quit at the same time?

I think he's talking about when his quit days were still in the negative numbers.
"quit conception."

It's where the quit sperm met the quit egg. They swam around together in the quit stew for a couple of days, then they made quit love, producing a little quit inside his womb.
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NKT
Still watching out for our buddies. Remember the rule!
Posted: Mar 27, 2009, 12:37 pm
trampGroup: MembersPosts: 239Member No.: 6,167Joined: 7-January 09

Somebody please call or text Beaver. He was in here on the morning of the 25th but didn't post roll, and he missed yesterday

Week Thirteen - 31 March - 6 April--- WRITE & REFLECT

2009-04-02T10:35:00.010-04:00

WRITE & REFLECT
Take WEEK 13 to begin thinking about your HOF entry. The HOF train will soon be barreling down the track. What's it feel like? You should be proud. Put some pen to paper and begin to draft your speech. It's fun and you should be congratulated.

Take a moment to read all the other HOF speeches that came before you but make it your own.
Believe me we will all read it!

RULE FOR WEEK #13: WRITE AND REFLECT
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Highlights/Posts and thoughts for this week:

- It's sad to read that there is still the chance of caving well into your quit. It scares the shit out of me.

bubblehead
Posted: Mar 31, 2009, 9:47 am

Quit - Is there any other way.Group: MembersPosts: 2,597Member No.: 2,839Joined: 26-March 08
QUOTE (rkymtnman @ Mar 31, 2009, 8:40 am)
I borrowed this from July
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QUOTE (iuchewie @ Mar 24, 2009, 1:10 pm)
QUOTE (ScooterScum @ Mar 24, 2009, 2:45 pm)
QUOTE (chh76 @ Mar 24, 2009, 11:43 am)

chh76 - 1 - Starting over. My first quit date was in July '07. Made it over a year but that doesn't mean much now. Tried to quit on my own a few times lately to avoid this post but realized I couldn't do it without roll call.

Glad your back chh76!!!!!!! Not going to rage on you for caving but would suggest you share your story with the rest of the group. May keep another newbie brother from making the same mistake!!!!!

Fuck that... I'll rage on you.What the hell happened? Where you been? Why'd you go away?I just had to update my spreadsheet from day 620 to day 1. That pissed me off. Obviously it sounds like I was way behind on the times. So what's the story my man?I gotta tell you... I HATE taking people off Names & Faces. 99 days from now I'll put you back on.You know what needs to be done... now do it. And do everyone a favor and share what led you back to the can. Let us learn from your fuckup.Welcome back friend... wish it were under better circumstances.chewie

I didn't have a good enough plan. I got deployed and was reintroduced to a past environment where I would always justify my dipping given the stress. It's no excuse- I know others have stayed quit on deployments, but it's what happened. One here and there turned back into a can a day in no time. I liked life better when I was quit, so I'm gonna to do it again.
Note the 620 days set back to DAY fucking 1!! Goes to show us ALL that the only difference between a fucking AWESOME quit and a brand spankin' new quit is a SINGLE bad decision. THERE CAN NEVER BE JUST ONE MORE.

Here is another story from someone in my group. READ AND HEED http://www.killthecan.org/facts/falls.asp

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Chewless Jim's words of wisdom

Brothers & sisters, you can never, ever again let your guard down. Nic tried to kill you, and will ALWAYS want your head on a platter. This is a death match, and your opponent doesn't fight fair. You'll never be completely safe. But that's okay, as long as you realize it, be alert, and persistent, and rely on the ACCOUNTABILITY you find here. ...theo

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LOOT RESURFACES
QUOTE (builderchad @ Mar 31, 2009, 8:02 pm)
QUOTE (loot @ Mar 31, 2009, 6:24 pm)
QUOTE (Trapper @ Mar 31, 2009, 5:51 pm)

TFurrh - 99 - buncha 90-s today...I like it!

so...tomorrow you hit 100 and LOOT will post 1400what we share let you not put assunder..congrats bitchdon't fuck LOOT

FU40

FU2bitwhore

FUSmokeyLOOTcockYFF

Who the HELL is LOOT?!?
you got it loot, (as I typed that, I tipped my hat) sir.
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RKYMTNMAN

Humor did still abound however.

Posted: Mar 31, 2009, 5:51 pm
redneckGroup: MembersPosts: 1,376Member No.: 5,992Joined: 22-December 08

So I head off to the bus stop to snatch up my boy off the elementary school bus this afternoon. Wind is blowing like a son of a bitch around here this afternoon. I get there and there is the usual MILF with the 4 other non-MILFs standing around talking about fucking Oprah or some shit like that.It is very windy. Remember, I still have a seriously foul gas issue. I decide it is safe to blow ass since with the wind and all - no way they will get a whiff as I am down wind. The INSTANT I let lose, the wind changed direction 180 degrees and they all get blasted with super gas. Luckily there were 2 dogs there and one of the non-MILFs quickly blamed the dog as "he has been doing that all day!" I about lost it LMFAO. I just don't fit in with the other neighborhood Moms.

Week Fourteen - 7 April - HOF--- DREAM

2009-04-01T10:36:00.009-04:00

DREAM
The above picture was taken 4 days before I quit tobacco. It is the day before my son's 4th birthday who is pictured with me there. (yes I still enjoy a glass of champagne now and then!)

In the past 14 weeks or so you have been steadfast to your quit. There was no dreaming about it (albeit an occassional cave dream!).

Now you can DREAM but never lose focus. DREAM of seeing your children grow up. DREAM of their successes. DREAM of your own tribulations and achievements. DAMNIT, START DREAMING!!!

I'm in the HOF now but still honestly believe that I need to keep my guard up. I'll feel more relaxed after one year when I've gone through all the FIRSTS.

RULE FOR HOF WEEK:
Make your DREAMS big and shoot for the stars! DREAM OF SECOND FLOOR AND ONE YEAR. DREAM............
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Highlights/Posts and DREAMS FOR THE WEEK
A tribute to our group
TCOPE'S LAST ROLL CALL
(I HOPE THESE ARE ALL OKAY. IF I MISSED YOU PLEASE LET ME KNOW)

You guys are truly my heroes. Thanks for everything. I'll be here for a long time.
TCOPE

April 09 H F: FOQer Roll Call
Mike1228
NKT
imaquitter
buddyboy
SWJ
TCOPE
Rkymtnman
abrown
OBC
ed
Wildcat99
BigDBingo
RoyJester
JPCrew
Tfurrh
ron3775
ScubaSteve
Camojfk
Niwot
Big Hoss
ndrooster
burmie
2jet
PbKid
Chrisman31
Moeman
bengalsgirl08
squeaky
Southersteeler
JK17
Trapper